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Discussion in 'OS X Yosemite (10.10)' started by newtito, Jun 9, 2014.
With the new Photos app, does anyone think there will still be a need for iPhoto?
My guess is that Photos will replace iPhoto because they pretty much do the same thing ; light & contrast adjustments, basic filters, displaying photos on a map and small consumer stuff like this.
Aperture, wich is aimed at PRO users & photographers will still be available as a paid app.
I order a lot of prints & occasionally make photo book. If iphoto goes away I hope these features remain.
Lastly, I've spent countless hours organizing all my photos into events. I now have my organization set up perfectly. I'm nervous I'm gonna have to redo all my hard work if this is the case.
That was my exact fear. Just like my iTunes music, where I have ensured that all the tags are correct, album art is good, etc., I have done a similar process with iPhoto. I hope they don't do away with iPhoto - although at times iPhoto can be so slow that I may welcome a change
What I'm wondering is if photos will still be saved locally on your mac like in iphoto currently, if and when a person decides to use the new photos and go all cloud storage.
I still think they'll keep both. Maybe just make iPhoto more for books and other creative features.
during the keynote, Craig demoed the new (coming next year) version of Photos. When he "pinched out"/zoomed out to view the "years" and "collections" views, The top of the app shows four category buttons, which included "sharing" and "projects." I'm guessing the new "projects" section of the app will be used to manage your books and other creative features, such as the "slideshows", "photo albums", "greetings cards", etc.
i think they will (and already did) get rid of the iphoto app as you know it, which is why it wan't included in the dock for this new beta. My main question is what Apple intends users to do between the release of Yosemite and the release of the new photos app. What will apple want users to do to address their photo needs if there is no iPhoto app in the interim?
my guess is that Apple realized that people weren't transferring, syncing, and organizing their photos on their macs, and that the best way for the average consumer to manage large photo libraries is to take all the metadata from their phones, and use the power of iCloud to add all this organizational power to the photos before they are downloaded to the users' macs. This way, their photos will be backed up safely, organized on their macs, so that they are easy to find, and thus also free to remove from the physical storage of their iPhones and iPads.
iCloud Drive (with full photo resolution) will be the new future, which is why they also mentioned the reduced pricing structure of iCloud Drive.
All the photos and metadata will be in iCloud, and I'm guessing all that data will be downloaded in full-quality to the mac, while all the thumbnail image previews will be viewable and navigable on iDevices, and only downloaded in full-quality when you want to edit them.
I have no idea how well old library events will migrate to the new system. If I were you, I would backup your entire library to a large external drive, just to make sure that you have a copy you can go back to if you need it.
Chances are it will have to update/change the database file and will not be backwards compatible with iPhoto.
What about photos taken on cameras?
But what about photos taken on cameras? Will the Mac Photos app just be able to import photos from an SD card from my camera and show them along with my iOS photos? This is all confusing with iCloud Photo Library, I am hoping that they will allow the iOS device photos to be synced across all devices, and also downloaded to the Mac (similar to what is done with photo stream), and then have the option to import photos from a camera to be viewed in the Mac Photos app but not to be synced with iCloud Photo Library. Or maybe they'll have the option to sync camera photos into the iPL. However my space would fill up waaaaay to quickly if i synced my camera pictures to the cloud, cause I tend to take way more pictures than necessary .
I'm pretty sure that the photos app for mac will put it in line with iOS's app - it's just a browser for your iCloud photo library, there's no syncing anymore as it's all done via the cloud. I'm sure you'll be able to drag photos from cameras and disks to the photos app to have them uploaded to iCloud (and therefore appear on all your devices).
I'm curious as to what this means for events etc as I already have my library organised and I don't want to lose that.
I am also very curious to see how this will work on the desktop side of things.
There reason I use Aperture mostly is for its organizational abilities to put events into folders and such.
But I want nothing more than to be able to sync all photos across all devices. That is excellent.
I hope Apple does a good job at bridging these two things.
It would be great if Apple would allow you to view photos from a camera in the Mac photos app without actually having to upload them to the cloud. I take a lot of pictures on my camera and really don't want them all in the cloud cause it would be overkill
I guess the new photos app will replace the digital pictures app and combine it a bit with preview. Just like the photos iOS app. Limited and basic sorting and editing. For anything more feature rich you need iPhoto - for anything even more professional aperture
What if Aperture becomes the new "iPhoto"? It's long overdue for an update, Lightroom is killing it for pro's. Update it, keeping it prosumer centric, and now a part of OS X core app's.
Just got my answer...
Well, based on today's news regarding Aperture and iPhoto, I guess that settles it. A shame too, because we have our iPhoto library meticulously sorted, guess we'll have to continue to rely on out-dated software in the future.
iPhoto and Aperture's functionality will be merged into Photos app, there will be no iPhoto anymore. For users who would still want Aperture, Apple will make it Yosemite-compatible, but no further upgrade would be available.
Lightroom is much better anyway. Hopefully this will push people to try Lightroom so they can start using a much better photo editor.
iPhoto update problems?
Is anyone else encountering errors when updating iPhoto from the App Store?
That sounds great for people who use iPhones, but there are some of us who don't have any smart phones and just use desktop or laptop Macs. I really don't like this push that Apple does to make us conform to the way they think we should be heading with the way we use technology. Many of us really just want a computer on our desk that we use now and then and then leave it behind as we go off and do other things. Smart phones and clouds are great, but not everyone wants them and Apple should realize that.
I just want a nice and easy program like iPhoto to organize my pictures. I shoot a lot of film and scan the negatives and do very little processing to them. Lightroom is an overkill for that and it seems that Adobe is pushing people to cloud-based apps, something else I don't want. Am I the only one who wants an easy photo organizing program that sits on their computer that doesn't have a lot of bells and whistles? iPhoto suits my needs really well but Apple seems intent on making things flashy and snappy.
I sympathize, but remember that iPhoto was just a freebie you got with your Mac. There are lots of better alternatives whether you wish for photo organization, editing, or both. Since Apple isn't always successful in keeping applications and/or services (MobileMe?) going, perhaps it's best to stick with a developer that is committed to say a photo application. Any developer who announced the death of their product with a new one maybe on the horizon months away would be out of business in short order. That should tell you something about trusting your images to Apple's software (system software excepted).
Yes, those are very good points. I was extremely disappointed when MobileMe went away. I have wanted to change programs, but I think of all the time I've put into iPhoto and all my libraries. Then again, once I am forced to upgrade to Yosemite, it looks like I might have to leave iPhoto behind, anyway. What are the non-Google alternatives, I wonder?
I would assume that Photos replaces iPhoto, but it will seamlessly adopt/import/convert the existing iPhoto library. So nobody will lose any photo organization info, but some more advanced iPhoto features (in editing or content creation) might be missing at first.
It will probably feel like the switch from iMovie '11 to iMovie 10.