What Will Samsung copy First ?

[shanson27]

What do you think will Samsung copy first from the Apple Watch?

• The changeable straps
• Apple S1 processor
• Digital crown
• Tactic Feedback engine
• Input Touch display
• Digital Touch
• curved sapphire glass
• The induction charging
• The infrared LED photosensors
• NFC Apple Pay
• The User Interface

Inside the Samsung Galaxy Gear

S1 Apple Chip

 

[Julien]

It's ApplePay.

 

[miketheappleguy]

This thread is quite childish. Every company copies each other. I'm glad I'm not blinded and stuck in one ecosystem like you probably are.

 

[Piggie]

What do you think will Samsung copy first from the Apple Watch?

• The changeable straps
• Apple S1 processor
• Digital crown
• Tactic Feedback engine
• Input Touch display
• Digital Touch
• curved sapphire glass
• The induction charging
• The infrared LED photosensors
• NFC Apple Pay

Inside the Samsung Galaxy Gear
Image

S1 Apple Chip
Image

That's just a metal cover on the Apple device.
If it WAS just that metal cover you are showing, and a thin screen, battery and sensor then there is no way the Apple watch would be as fat as it is.
Let's wait for the stripdown to see what's really inside taking up the space.

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This thread is quite childish. Every company copies each other. I'm glad I'm not blinded and stuck in one ecosystem like you probably are.

Indeed yes, quite right.

 

[roadbloc]

This thread is quite childish. Every company copies each other. I'm glad I'm not blinded and stuck in one ecosystem like you probably are.

Ladies and Gentlemen, your winner of the thread!

 

[cariacou]

That's just a metal cover on the Apple device.
If it WAS just that metal cover you are showing, and a thin screen, battery and sensor then there is no way the Apple watch would be as fat as it is.
Let's wait for the stripdown to see what's really inside taking up the space.


hint: battery

 

[Piggie]

That's just a metal cover on the Apple device.
If it WAS just that metal cover you are showing, and a thin screen, battery and sensor then there is no way the Apple watch would be as fat as it is.
Let's wait for the stripdown to see what's really inside taking up the space.


hint: battery

Well, it would be nice if Apple surprised everyone with a large battery life in a watch.
It's one of the main, I can't be bothered with one, comments at the moment.

Remember, people came from mobile phones that lasted say a week, and were weaned onto smart phones that lasted a day or two.

With Watches, people are having to be weaned from watches that last from about a year or two, to forever without needing to mess with power, to watches that last a day.

So it would be nice. I'm sure most would be happy with say 1 week or charge, or half a week minimum.

Every single day is seen as asking a bit much for many.

 

[cammyg123]

This thread is quite childish. Every company copies each other. I'm glad I'm not blinded and stuck in one ecosystem like you probably are.

Perfect.

 

[gochi]

lol, didnt samsung release their watch ahead of apple?

 

[JeepinCoastie]

Yeah they are already on the gear 2 and Apple doesn't even have a watch out. Kind of a dumb thread...

 

[Traverse]

Yeah they are already on the gear 2 and Apple doesn't even have a watch out. Kind of a dumb thread...

Good point. Apple's watch didn't unveil anything groundbreaking. While probably the best quality, it won't change lives.

 

[alphaod]

They'd just take the whole design and release it before Apple does and claim to have to developed it earlier than Apple did.

 

[Ccrew]

Yeah they are already on the gear 2 and Apple doesn't even have a watch out. Kind of a dumb thread...

Heck, the Gear S is coming out which will be the third Samsung iteration in 2 years.

 

[MRU]

What a silly trolling thread.

Samsung have 'released'

Galaxy Gear
Galaxy Gear UX
Galxy Gear 2
Galaxy Gear Fit
Galaxy Gear S

Apple have not 'released any watch yet'....


What silly nonsense ......

 

[Ccrew]

What a silly trolling thread.

Samsung have 'released'

Galaxy Gear
Galaxy Gear UX
Galxy Gear 2
Galaxy Gear Fit
Galaxy Gear S

Apple have not 'released any phone yet'....


What silly nonsense ......

Galaxy Gear 2 Neo
Samsung Gear Live

 

[kdarling]

What do you think will Samsung copy first from the Apple Watch?

There's not much to copy from Apple, since it's all been done before.

The changeable straps

The Galaxy Gear 2 you showed a picture of, allows using any standard watch strap, as do many other smartwatches. Much more choice that way.

Apple S1 processor

That's not an actual chip. It's just a bunch of resin covering this:

Digital crown

I hope they don't.

Tactic Feedback engine

Haptic feedback is part of the Android Wear spec.

Input Touch display

Samsung has been doing this for a long time.

Digital Touch

Again, I hope they don't copy this one.

curved sapphire glass

I don't think Samsung will use sapphire.

The induction charging

Others have done that.

The infrared LED photosensors

Samsung has pulse sensor.

NFC Apple Pay

Samsung has their own payment system overseas. If you mean NFC, then I agree, that would be nice to put in their watch. (Sony already put NFC in their watches for tag reading.)

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Now, what I'd like Apple to copy from Samsung:

- user replaceable battery
- IP67 dust/water resistant case
- ability to use standard straps

 

[shanson27]

Haptic feedback is part of the Android Wear spec.

See the difference:

"Taptic feedback engine" - speaker driver

"Haptic feedback" - vibration

 

[kdarling]

See the difference:

"Taptic feedback engine" - speaker driver

"Haptic feedback" - vibration

Fancy name for virtually the same thing. According to Apple:

"It’s called the Taptic Engine, a linear actuator inside Apple Watch that produces haptic feedback. In less technical terms, it taps you on the wrist."

Then they throw in some accompanying sounds as well:

"Combined with subtle audio cues from the specially engineered speaker driver"

In other words, the speaker isn't doing the tapping, but simply adding sounds.

Your idea would be good, too, though.

 

[0000757]

What do you think will Samsung copy first from the Apple Watch?

• The changeable straps
• Apple S1 processor
• Digital crown
  [*]Tactic Feedback engine
  [*]Input Touch display
• Digital Touch
  [*]curved glass (don't think it's actually sapphire that they have, but it's curved, and more than the AW)
  [*]The induction charging
  [*]The infrared LED photosensors
  [*]NFC Apple Pay

I bolded everything they already had before the Apple Watch.

Yeah they are already on the gear 2 and Apple doesn't even have a watch out. Kind of a dumb thread...

While this is true, the successors to the Galaxy Gear were released barely half a year later, and the successor to the Gear 2, the Gear S, was announced only 4 months after it's release, so its not like their products have much longevity.

 

[5232152]

Flame post, abandon thread!

 

[SHNXX]

things that would really convince me that it's a copy:
-digital crown
-two sizes for women and men (this is something that apple did which was very smart)
-sized like a watch not a wrist computer (longest side being 38mm and 42mm are very much in line with sport watches today)

 

[shyam09]

I bolded everything they already had before the Apple Watch.



While this is true, the successors to the Galaxy Gear were released barely half a year later, and the successor to the Gear 2, the Gear S, was announced only 4 months after it's release, so its not like their products have much longevity.

Gear 2 / Neo have changeable straps too. It accepts all 22mm bands.

Digital crown / Digital touch is something we'll have to see though. It looks interesting from the keynote, but I honestly hate playing around with the crown on my normal watches (granted Apple's should be bigger and smoother).

 

[valleian]

Yeah they are already on the gear 2 and Apple doesn't even have a watch out. Kind of a dumb thread...

Have you seen any of the seven iterations of the Galaxy Gear? They aren't selling well, they have few features, and the design and build quality have been ridiculed. You also seem to fail to remember that Apple wasn't the first to the MP3 market, Smartphone market, or Tablet market, but that certainly didn't stop other companies from coping their features into their own devices to make them comparable. The Digital Crown, Taptic Feedback, Force Touch, and S1 SoC are all innovative features that no other smartwatches have. Inductive charging is available on the Moto 360, but not the way Apple does it.

 

[Piggie]

Have you seen any of the seven iterations of the Galaxy Gear? They aren't selling well, they have few features, and the design and build quality have been ridiculed. You also seem to fail to remember that Apple wasn't the first to the MP3 market, Smartphone market, or Tablet market, but that certainly didn't stop other companies from coping their features into their own devices to make them comparable. The Digital Crown, Taptic Feedback, Force Touch, and S1 SoC are all innovative features that no other smartwatches have. Inductive charging is available on the Moto 360, but not the way Apple does it.

The Apple Watch is not selling well either right now

And let's be honest, other than an expected OMG it's Apple I must have it scenario that's bound to happen initially, we as yet have no idea if the public REALLY wants one.

To be honest, not one person I know socially wants one.
But then again, not many people I know have an iPhone so that kinda kills it for the vast majority over here before we even get started.

We have, what 6 months, so plenty of time yet.

I'm looking forward to seeing all watches from all makers.

Microsoft are supposed to be bringing one out that will work across all three major platforms, so that's good for starters.

Part of the issue I feel at the moment is, even the industry don't know if people want them, and if they do want them, what to they want them to do.

Apple's approach, and I know this is going to upset many, it a bit unimaginative and they have just done what people said not to do, and that's to try and make a mini iPhone with apps on your wrist with a tiny screen.

Perhaps people don't want or need that, they just want something far simpler.

Time will tell, but Lets say March/April next year is going to be a hell of a long time coming.

 

[tekkt0r]

lol, didnt samsung release their watch ahead of apple?

yes, but only because they knew apple was working on one. the first true inventor of the modern era smart watch would be pebble.

samsung is incapable of original ideas. apple too, sometimes. the difference is apple gets it right whilst Samsung makes poorly implemented copies. see anyone using Samsung's (or any other manufacturer's) version of TouchID?

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Samsung: first to market with crap
Apple: last to market with gold

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The Apple Watch is not selling well either right now

And let's be honest, other than an expected OMG it's Apple I must have it scenario that's bound to happen initially, we as yet have no idea if the public REALLY wants one.

To be honest, not one person I know socially wants one.
But then again, not many people I know have an iPhone so that kinda kills it for the vast majority over here before we even get started.

We have, what 6 months, so plenty of time yet.

I'm looking forward to seeing all watches from all makers.

Microsoft are supposed to be bringing one out that will work across all three major platforms, so that's good for starters.

Part of the issue I feel at the moment is, even the industry don't know if people want them, and if they do want them, what to they want them to do.

Apple's approach, and I know this is going to upset many, it a bit unimaginative and they have just done what people said not to do, and that's to try and make a mini iPhone with apps on your wrist with a tiny screen.

Perhaps people don't want or need that, they just want something far simpler.

Time will tell, but Lets say March/April next year is going to be a hell of a long time coming.

I'm a bit curious as to why Apple debuted the Watch so early. Samsung et al are notorious for copying, with some degree of success, whatever Apple makes. Why give them a leg up? Clearly, the Watch has a lot of unique features that won't be hard to copy and implement, especially when there's a 6+ month window in which to do it.

That said, I don't think Apple made this watch with the intention of persuading Android users to switch. They're marketing and catering to Apple users. So... that's kinda cool. I guess.