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Having said what I have said earlier... About building my own machine... You do understand that the major difference between Windows PC and a Mac is that a Mac is not built by any Dick, Tom or Harry in their bedroom? If it was, you would have just another system that would work averagely on some machines, and just terribly on all the rest.
As for gaming... I do agree, Macs are not built for that, not even the Mac Pros...
So, if you want a gaming machine... Build a PC.

A Mac is not built by any Dick, it's built by many tiny Asian people in a Foxconn plant along with all of the other name brand laptops. PCs and Macs are no different in that regard, contrary to whatever you may believe. I have built many a PC before and not only is it not hard, but it's also not hard to do and to keep and maintain a custom built PC. Not only that, but said custom built PC runs far better than any name brand PC. Have you ever used such a system? Because it sounds like you haven't and thusly don't know what the hell you're talking about. PCs and Macs are both good for 80% of all practical applications. To make such a comparison in the fashion that you have is fanboy-ish and ignorant.

The question is... who is going to support those masses of "OS X monsters" ? Apple sure as heck isn't... they haven't certified the hardware, so they won't support their software on it. So I hope you have masses of staff to support your computers when problems develop. Including software issues...

Okay, so my comment rolled with the hypothetical "if Apple Licensed OS X" in which case you know that AMD, NVIDIA, and just about every motherboard manufacturer would likely offer drivers, right? When Apple announced the Intel transition, many manufacturers openly stated that they'd support OS X on standard hardware if Apple let them. As for who would support those machines; I have seven different Apple certifications; I think I can handle it to start. Though Apple is never going to license OS X so it's a moot hypothetical anyway.
 
Not only that I have used such systems but I have also built ten or more myself... And on a another note, if you do not have enough courtesy to engage in a normal conversation without being aggressive please don't engage in one at all.
 
The question is... who is going to support those masses of "OS X monsters" ? Apple sure as heck isn't... they haven't certified the hardware, so they won't support their software on it. So I hope you have masses of staff to support your computers when problems develop. Including software issues...

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Okay, so my comment rolled with the hypothetical "if Apple Licensed OS X" in which case you know that AMD, NVIDIA, and just about every motherboard manufacturer would likely offer drivers, right?
I'm not so sure that they would actually follow through on that. It's not like the video card are falling all over themselves to offer drivers for the Mac Pro compatible cards. Professional photo printer drivers are often offered late to Macs, and then they stop development on the drivers early.
...I have seven different Apple certifications; I think I can handle it to start. Though Apple is never going to license OS X so it's a moot hypothetical anyway.

In which case the correct hypothetical answer would have been by using the transmorgifier - whereby you clone yourself. :)

But seriously.... when you start supporting your own hardware you'd soon see why Apple doesn't open up the platform. For your sanity, you'd standardize on a specific set of hardware parts. Then you'll go crazy when one of your customers opens the box and swaps out the video card for another one with flaky drivers... or one that pulls that just a little bit more power than the board can handle - even though the specs on the card say it should be within limits. You know the one that trips the safety circuits only when the system is below 16ºc because it takes just that much more power to start spinning up a cold fan on the video card.

Oy... and then the WiFi card you've been installing - same model number as you've always used - started shipping with a different chip on it that has flaky OS X drivers... (without telling you that they'v made the change)

Get the hypothetical Scotch or Bourbon and hypothetically get mortal, eh?
 
Probably get fully loaded Alienware 15" and then tri-boot windows 7, OS X & whatever the linux flavor of the week is.

I don't need a rocket ship to play gw2 or make keynote slides. I do it fine on my 13" MBP now. So a cookie cutter Alienware with an nVida card would suit my needs and more. ^^
 
I wouldnt change a thing. When you start mixing components, OSs tend to run differently. Ask windows and android.
 
Good question. The more you go deeper into Apple's world, the more you realize that the only Apple computer which deserves to look at is their Macbook line ups and nothing else.

It's updated regularly, good looking, catch up with newest tech pretty quickly and innovated a lot better. Powahh is not so good though considering Apple loves thin.

So if OSX was licensed, I'd go with custom PC route, plugged into Apple or Dell Display and get one Macbook Air for mobility purpose.
Also a few iToys if I have some more money to spare.
 
I wouldnt change a thing. When you start mixing components, OSs tend to run differently. Ask windows and android.

Ask pre-built cheap PCs and cheap Android phones, right?

My custom built PC has NEVER given me any kind of annoyance.
My Windows 7 installation is 1 year old and is as fast as it was when I formatted the SSD and installed the OS.
My games run with the same performance they had when I've installed the OS.
My hardware works 100% and doesn't give me any BSOD or freezing problem.

I hate posts like yours, which make the Mac community to look like retards out there.

If your PC experience is based on cheap machines, you can't blame Windows for that.

This topic only shows that Apple's computer main product is called OS X.
Macs (desktop side) are dead.
People don't buy them because of the hardware, but solely because of the operating system.

It also shows that the all-in-one form factor of iMacs is bad and most (again: most, not all of them) people don't really like them. People buy iMacs because it has a desktop CPU, a better GPU than MacBooks and, obviously, runs OS X natively.
 
It also shows that the all-in-one form factor of iMacs is bad and most (again: most, not all of them) people don't really like them. People buy iMacs because it has a desktop CPU, a better GPU than MacBooks and, obviously, runs OS X natively.

I do like the iMac's form factor (and I love how quiet it is), but I would settle for a custom machine if it ran OS X without hacks.
The reason I go for iMac rather than MBP/MBA is that I need something more powerful than that and I don't have great mobility requirements, so getting something less powerful and more expensive is, to me, pointless. Being able to build my own machine and slam OS X on it would let me get an even more powerful machine at even lower price. I'd be more than happy, in the long term, to pay €100 for each major OS X update compared to the current €19 or whatever it is now on Macs.
 
Part of what makes OS X easier to work with is that it doesn't need to support every possible hardware combination. I don't think it would take long to bloat in the same Windows driver mess and grow some serious performance issues if they licensed it to run on non-Apple PC's.
 
I would not care, as i use Windows on my Macs anyway. I only like the hardware and design of Macs, not the OS. For me a Mac is just a PC, the perfect PC. ;)
I used to like the Mac OS, a long time ago, but they released Lion...
 
I would build a kick ass system, enjoy the boost in performance while complaining about the look of a tower compared to the iMac. But still, I, for the same price (2.5K), would build a system.

Or just die because Hell would have to be frozen over.:apple:
 
Don't particularly like the idea of OSX roaming free, but an exclusive deal with HP would be pretty kick ass. I'd kill for an official OSX HP Z800 series.
 
Part of what makes OS X easier to work with is that it doesn't need to support every possible hardware combination. I don't think it would take long to bloat in the same Windows driver mess and grow some serious performance issues if they licensed it to run on non-Apple PC's.

Ditto.
 
Ask pre-built cheap PCs and cheap Android phones, right?

My custom built PC has NEVER given me any kind of annoyance.
My Windows 7 installation is 1 year old and is as fast as it was when I formatted the SSD and installed the OS.
My games run with the same performance they had when I've installed the OS.
My hardware works 100% and doesn't give me any BSOD or freezing problem.

I hate posts like yours, which make the Mac community to look like retards out there.

If your PC experience is based on cheap machines, you can't blame Windows for that.

This topic only shows that Apple's computer main product is called OS X.
Macs (desktop side) are dead.
People don't buy them because of the hardware, but solely because of the operating system.

It also shows that the all-in-one form factor of iMacs is bad and most (again: most, not all of them) people don't really like them. People buy iMacs because it has a desktop CPU, a better GPU than MacBooks and, obviously, runs OS X natively.

You are assuming quite a bit about me yeah? It makes you look like the retard. Its proven that when you deal with different components and the such, efficiency is affected. Remember to read before you blindly pretend to anything about me or my experiences based on generalized post. good day.
 
I was going to post a reply, until I read this BS.

Tip: stop spreading fallacies like this. It makes you look dumb.

OK!! Wow, this forum is full of idiots that pretend to be so smart!! You got me, how can I ever match your alien intelligence, how can society not cope without your omnipotent supreme knowledge of all things, we bow to you MASTER!!! Please continue to keep us in your court as we are mere mortals, and dont have a right to be in your holy presence!! please forgive MASTER! :rolleyes:
 
The question is... who is going to support those masses of "OS X monsters" ? Apple sure as heck isn't... they haven't certified the hardware, so they won't support their software on it. So I hope you have masses of staff to support your computers when problems develop. Including software issues...

This is one of the main stability issues with Windows random cobbled together hardware. OSX runs so smoothly because it lives on known hardware configs.
 
This is one of the main stability issues with Windows random cobbled together hardware. OSX runs so smoothly because it lives on known hardware configs.

Then Apple may partner with specific manufacturer to certify that this or that piece of hardware has been tested and confirmed to work well with OS X...
 
Then Apple may partner with specific manufacturer to certify that this or that piece of hardware has been tested and confirmed to work well with OS X...

Once upon a time, Apple did allow non Apple hardware to run their OS and it nearly put them out of business.
 
This is not a question of if apple would even do it, but if apple choose to license its OS, would you still buy an iMac? If not, what would you go for?

I would still buy Apple hardware. As usual, you get what you pay for. Apple quality and support is worth it.
 
This is one of the main stability issues with Windows random cobbled together hardware. OSX runs so smoothly because it lives on known hardware configs.

Windows isn't unstable because of "random hardware". It's unstable because of retarded users downloading everything from the Internet.

OS X is as unstable as Windows. I've had many issues with the whole system becoming frozen in my old MBP 2009 and MBP 2010.

Curiously, I've never experienced any kind of complete system freeze in my current desktop custom built PC.

MacRumors forums are full of fallacies. :p
 
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