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oh goodie. lets talk about iPads then. lets see if i get more rude comments about my opinions.

if your buying an iPad for a business or maybe for any reason what so ever. it is very important that you buy a cellular enabled iPad. a lot of people here are going to tell you that wifi is everywhere, and that tethering makes cellular not needed. do not listen to these people. and besides. you can get 200 mb of free data from tmobile or add it to your share plan ( AT&T or verizon ) for only $10 a month.

the reason why cellular is very important is because of theft. if you lose your iPad or if your iPad gets stolen, the only way it can phone home to apple.com or to be placed in lost mode or erased, is if the iPad has connected to that wifi hotspot before. iPads that are locked by a passcode only connect to wifi networks that it has connected to before, or that it knows the password too

free wifi like starbuckcs and mcdonalds will not work either. because the locked iPad cannot click on "I AGREE"

if you want to save money on the wifi only model and you are worried about theft you should either take advantage of apple's engraving offer to engrave your passcode on the back of your iPad, so people can use it. or by not using a lock code at all

another problem with wifi only iPads is they base their location on scanning the wifi neighborhood, finding a way to contact the internet, and submitting the mac id numbers (serial numbers of the base stations) to apple. and then thanks to all the volunteers that apple has (meaning us) they send back the location to where apple thinks the iPad is.

this is nice. but its not the same as GPS

if you buy the cellular model. it will have a real GPS chip. so therefor any location it sends back will be more accurate. and it will be live, thanks to your data plan.

no matter where your cellular enabled iPad is, maybe at a criminals house, or at the pawn shop or lost on the freeway, the cellular iPad will tell you where exactly it is in 15 seconds

compare that to a wifi enabled ipad which won't even have your phone number on its lock screen , because it cannot connect to that wifi hotspot unless it has connected to it before

maybe traffic will jam up pn the freeway and someone will drive by with wifi hotspot it connected to before! yeah but that can take years. and the iPad only has 10 hours of batteries

people will bring up that the sim card can be ejected. but a cellular enabled iPad stands a better chance of being found then a wifi only tablet that has no way in heck of ever being located ever again

i think all the news stories about peoples iPads being recovered were all cellular models.

if your iPod gets stolen and it won't respond to find my iPhone because its in wifi no wheres ville. maybe you can get it back by printing lost fliers with the picture of your iPad and a telephone number you can be reached at as well as the lock code

if someone finds your iPad , if they know what your lock code is, you will get it back just as quick as a cellular model

the cost of the cellular model is $129 extra. the data plan required to get your lost iPad back is $0. i think its well with it. maybe you can glue the sim tray shut

its not like I'm saying don't buy an iPod touch 5th gen , and spend a 2 year contract of $1700 on an iPhone for the sole reason of getting your iPod touch back. , all I'm saying is spend the extra $129, get the free data plan
, and if t-mo doesn't work out, then take it to AT&T and think about spending $10 on it. or not. its up to you

if your are in a good tmo area. you can stick with the free plan .. and if u run into trouble u can add extra data to your plan , on another computer, so it won't run out of data.

free data runs dry and no more data at all. so turn off everything but find my iPhone for cellular

paid data is unlimited and slows down after your high speed data is being used.

any paid data plan ( liike $15 or $20 now?" ) gives you unlimited music streaming on an iPad. just like if you paid $50 for an iPhone
 
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All good points

I don't think my comments were rude. I was just pointing out their irrelevance to the discussion at hand. This is a forum with threads dedicated to a specific problem question or issue, while some drifting off topic is fair enough things that re outright off topic seem a bit extreme and should be discouraged.

Back to iPads seemingly you have some very passionate views on this.

I am not paranoid enough to worry about it, I have a wifi only and insurance from my bank account that'll do for me.

By all means though OP consider a cellular version it is very useful for VPN into your macbook and getting things off your computer when you need them...
 
the only thing a wifi only iPad i good for is telling you which couch cushion its under. once it leaves your house , your screwed

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Seemingly you have some very passionate views on this.

I am not paranoid enough to worry about it, I have a wifi only and insurance from my bank account that'll do for me.

By all means though OP consider a cellular version it is very useful for VPN into your macbook and getting things off your computer when you need them...

your insurance deductible is more then the $129 i am asking you to pay
its $129 for cellular and data plans start at $0 a month. thats $29 more then applecare.


i think crime in california is going to go down. they passed this prop 47 thing. walking out the door with a 128 gig iPhone 6 + or writing a bad check or bad credit card for that iPhone is now a misdemeanor.

felony robbery is going to go down and shoplifting will go up
 
I'm in the uk

My bank account comes with some free gadget insurance.... I can apply it to ma phone or ipad..
 
@silvetti I'm a 27 years old guy .. I will get the 2.4ghz/8gb/256gb for $1240 rmbp 2013

@samuelsan2001 I agree with your comments for iPad and the business/pics aspect.

You recommend air over mini because of the screen is bigger for customers to see easily and also take pics as well?

@rigormortis I totally get where you are coming from regarding to cellular iPad.

I just realized what if I have an event that is away from my business like a wedding, birthday or even a trade show like place ..It gamble if the customer/establishment have wifi so i can take pics and post them on social media for other potential customers to see. Who knows I might even do a dessert truck in the future which definitely need a cellular iPad


Do you guys recommend AppleCare for refurb rmbp and iPad?
 
@silvetti I'm a 27 years old guy .. I will get the 2.4ghz/8gb/256gb for $1240 rmbp 2013
I think you will be very happy with this laptop.

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@samuelsan2001 I agree with your comments for iPad and the business/pics aspect.
If you are planing to present products to customers on the go, I agree with samuelsan2001, too.

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@rigormortis I totally get where you are coming from regarding to cellular iPad.
I can only second rigormortis suggestion. Always get cellular!

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You recommend air over mini because of the screen is bigger for customers to see easily and also take pics as well?

I just realized what if I have an event that is away from my business like a wedding, birthday or even a trade show like place ..It gamble if the customer/establishment have wifi so i can take pics and post them on social media for other potential customers to see.
If possible I would not recommend an iPad to take ad photos. Get a DSLR/MSLR for this purpose.

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Do you guys recommend AppleCare for refurb rmbp and iPad?
For mobile devices get insurance, not :apple:care.
 
I went to staples to check out the iPad Air 2 and mini 3 ... Hard to decide between the two for the size. So far one thing annoy me is when i play a video ... It didn't go a true full screen, it got the address bar which it didn't disappear
 
I went to staples to check out the iPad Air 2 and mini 3 ... Hard to decide between the two for the size. So far one thing annoy me is when i play a video ... It didn't go a true full screen, it got the address bar which it didn't disappear
Resizing the window down and back to full screen usually fixes this immediately.
 
What would you do?

Ahhh I see ... I played a YouTube video ... Checked every button .., nothing make it full screen ... I will try again and see if it work

Man! I'm excited and nervous getting my macbook on Monday hopefully ... Learning entirely new OS system
 
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Today is the day I'm finally going to get my first time rmbp... I'm trying to wait patiently for the delivery person to come lol
 
Enjoy your new computer

Today is the day I'm finally going to get my first time rmbp... I'm trying to wait patiently for the delivery person to come lol


Have all the fun with that little machine it really is agreat piece of kit let us know how it goes...
 
Today is the day I'm finally going to get my first time rmbp... I'm trying to wait patiently for the delivery person to come lol

LOL, I know the feeling. Its better then Christmas :D

Good luck with your new baby, and enjoy
 
Uh, I'm stuck between 2 and 3. I will say this, I have a desktop at home and an iPad for on-the-go. I absolutely loove my iPad. I take it everywhere! I put win95 when I hacked it for sh**s n' giggles. You can never go wrong with a pad, I feel naked and lost without one in my life.
 
What would you do?

The Rmbp is sweet... Especially watching movies and videos, got smooth looking image and got great lighting

I got the general idea of how the OS works and it layout ... I was nervous with the keyboard knowing it got spacing and shallow keys .. I can type just as fast on my other laptop :)

The trackpad is something I have to get use to ... My other laptop I can press the pad like a touchscreen to go to somewhere but with rmbp I have to click it to go somewhere ... The functions from rmbp trackpad is very versatile
 
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