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So, is 1 Password not to be trusted or use?

purchase it direct... I generally don't buy from the app store if I can help it. I go direct. The App store apps keep getting updated and sometimes I want the original rev I purchased. And I have not figured out a way to do this on the APP store...
 
purchase it direct... I generally don't buy from the app store if I can help it. I go direct. The App store apps keep getting updated and sometimes I want the original rev I purchased. And I have not figured out a way to do this on the APP store...

On a few occasions some applications I've purchased on the Mac app store have had new versions which are broken. One example is Textual an IRC client and another is Movist a video player.

In both of these occasions I used Time Machine to revert back to earlier versions. That seems the only way right now to go back to an earlier version of a program if its already been updated. Quite frustrating.
 
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So, is 1 Password not to be trusted or use?
1Password can be trusted. The problem is a malicious app intercepting data between it and its companion app (1Password mini). But before any of that can occur, you must first install malware on your machine. So if you're smart about what you install and where it came from (both are important factors), you should be able to safely continue using 1Password (I use it daily and will continue to do so).
 
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I don't think this is in the wild. The original article said that the finders wrote exploit apps and put them on the App Store. Apple did not flag them as malware at the time.
If Apple could find the "fingerprint" of the exploit in the app, then they can drop them from the store in a short space of time.
Apples gatekeeping is all good and well, but using your own judgement is important too - from some of the comments here it sounds like people have given up on checking things out themselves.
 
I don't think this is in the wild. The original article said that the finders wrote exploit apps and put them on the App Store. Apple did not flag them as malware at the time.
If Apple could find the "fingerprint" of the exploit in the app, then they can drop them from the store in a short space of time.
Apples gatekeeping is all good and well, but using your own judgement is important too - from some of the comments here it sounds like people have given up on checking things out themselves.
I think that’s what a lot of ‘regular’ Mac users have done and expect to do be able to keep doing.
 
I agree.

What I'm trying to say is that, for the time being, the safest course of action is probably to withhold downloading or using these third party apps until this vulnerability is resolved.

The problem is not so much that these third-party apps themselves cannot be trusted, the problem is more that malicious apps can interfere with pretty much any app, whether sandboxed or not. Using only Apple's apps will not alleviate the problem if you have an app installed that uses this vulnerability.

My question is: If a malicious app has already been downloaded, and the app is not running, is my system at risk?
 
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What would you like them to do? Put an ad in the paper?
That kind of stuff needs to be resolved quietly BECAUSE there is no need to broadcast to the hackers.

Also, the people who keep saying that as a fact Apple has done nothing need to read the line where it says they tried (so far unsuccessfully)
Looks like it's not that easy as a poster saying: Just fix it. Flip a switch and we are done!

Well, the "bad guys" put an ad in the paper, and so far, I haven't heard a peep from Apple as to what they are doing. Not cool.
 
Great. Yet another thing for people who know nothing about computers to freak out about. The number of people who put a little piece of tape on their webcams... I don't even...

And another comment that's totally pointless.
 
From Reading all the posts in here it seems everyone glossed over the part in the article where they said Apple has been trying to fix it. But has so far been unsuccessful... That's a far cry from most everyone shouting Apple has ignored this issue.

I don't think people are glossing over that fact. It's the silence that has people bugged - or at least what has me bugged.
 
Where is that stated? From what I've read the proof of concept apps were successfully submitted and listed on the Mac App Store and then subsequently removed. Are there reports that this exploit is active in the wild?

That would be good news! Where did you read this? Would you please provide a link?
 
XARA is an exploit discovered by a university. XARA is not an application. There may be no applications in existence that use this same exploit at this time. Be safe, only install known good software.

I agree with you, but where is that line that defines what "known good software" is?

For example: A couple of months ago, I installed Photo Sweeper http://overmacs.com/?p=photosweeper . I did my due diligence, it has a decent presence on the web, and no references to malware that I could find at the time that i installed it AND I purchased it from the Apple Store. How do I know if it's safe???
 
purchase it direct... I generally don't buy from the app store if I can help it. I go direct. The App store apps keep getting updated and sometimes I want the original rev I purchased. And I have not figured out a way to do this on the APP store...

IIRC, you don't have to install the updates unless you choose to.
 
It's not a matter of versions. There are four different exploits. Versions in of themselves do not appear to matter. For all intents and purposes, OS X is vulnerable to all four and iOS two at most, though the implications last I read were not well understood for iOS relating to the web sockets vulnerability.

Is Mac OS X Snow Leopard affected...? lolx... :p:p
 
Well, the "bad guys" put an ad in the paper, and so far, I haven't heard a peep from Apple as to what they are doing. Not cool.

Personally, they shouldn't say anything. Pulling attention to the issue is not good in many ways and I'm sure they are working on it.

If you think all problems can be easily fixed, you're thinking wrong. Some of these issues can be very complex and fixes can impact many parts of the system and security. Plus Apple has to be careful not to break other valid apps in the process or they'll have a big mess on the other side.

Apple gains nothing by having security problems, but it's bound to happen given the complexity of the OS and the determination of the hackers that are out there.
 
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Personally, they shouldn't say anything. Pulling attention to the issue is not good in many ways...

While I respect your opinion, I disagree.

If you think all problems can be easily fixed, you're thinking wrong. Some of these issues can be very complex and fixes can impact many parts of the system and security. Plus Apple has to be careful not to break other valid apps in the process or they'll have a big mess on the other side.

I know that many problems are not easily fixed.

Apple gains nothing by having security problems, but it's bound to happen given the complexity of the OS and the determination of the hackers that are out there.

Agreed, but you are stating the obvious (I'm not being sarcastic).
 
Agreed, but you are stating the obvious (I'm not being sarcastic).

Sure it's obvious, but some posters have made references as if Apple is ignoring these flaws and that statement was for those posters... As you say, it's obvious that ignoring them would do them no good, so it's fairly easy to assume it's a complex fix and they're working on it.

That was my point. :)
 
I think the problem is software has become an after thought for pretty products. This is the first year they are actually fixing the os post Steve. Instead of coming out with a new one every year. Im pissed right now. I bought this macbook pro for my personal use because all I heard is how secure it is. Now to think of it in my 14 yrs using windows , I never had this problem. I feel like a chump.
 
I think the problem is software has become an after thought for pretty products. This is the first year they are actually fixing the os post Steve. Instead of coming out with a new one every year. Im pissed right now. I bought this macbook pro for my personal use because all I heard is how secure it is. Now to think of it in my 14 yrs using windows , I never had this problem. I feel like a chump.

How can you say you've never had this problem with Windows? You've must be joking, with Windows your information can be taken even without downloading an app just connect it to the internet.

If you feel like a chump it's because you are buying into the hype that this is a larger issue than it really is, it's not in the wild and even if it were you'd have to do a few things before you'd be affected.
 
Im pissed right now. I bought this macbook pro for my personal use because all I heard is how secure it is. Now to think of it in my 14 yrs using windows , I never had this problem. I feel like a chump.

You've bought into the hype and marketing like everybody else, and now you've woken up in the real world. It pissed me off, too. ;-)

Apple products have become mass products and hence they have become an attractive target for all sorts of malware. This was bound to happen. Secrecy might have always been one of Apple's strengths, but certainly not security. There have always been reports about major security flaws and holes in their products throughout the years, but nobody every really cared - neither Apple nor their customers. But with the market share that IOS devices have reached, that's a luxury nobody can afford anymore.

The simple truth remains that Apple products are NOT in ANY way more secure than the products of their competition. Out of the box even the opposite is quite often true (at least when we're talking about OS X compared to Linux or Windows).
 
We've been exploiting a fundamental weakness in the Keychain since 2007 and selling it to government agencies around the world. Apple is well aware of it as we met with their security team before we began selling the product and they scoffed at it. Now their government sales guys help us sell it. :D
 
This is the scary part......

Apple's known about XARA for several months, and according to the researchers who shared the vulnerability with Apple, the company does appear to have tried to fix it several times without success. Avoiding the exploit is relatively simple, as Ritchie and Arnott point out. Avoiding malicious apps can be done by downloading software only from trusted developers and avoiding anything that seems suspicious.
 
How can you say you've never had this problem with Windows? You've must be joking, with Windows your information can be taken even without downloading an app just connect it to the internet.

If you feel like a chump it's because you are buying into the hype that this is a larger issue than it really is, it's not in the wild and even if it were you'd have to do a few things before you'd be affected.
Never ever had a problem with Windows, kept everything locked down. Sorry I don't drink the kool aid and just say its hype.
 
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