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Either way would be ok with me. 4g would be sweet, but I would trade 4g for more 3G coverage nationwide. 3G is pleanty fast, and rather have that nationwide as opposed to a few cities that have 4g. It seems like att is trying to make some really big strides with thier network, and I hope it all comes together in 2011, or at least a lot of it. I was reading they have been over hauling the network, and they hope to have most of it done in mid 2012 if iirc.

You know I think you're right. I used colleagues evo's with 4g and to be honest I'm not impressed with the speed.
 
You know I think you're right. I used colleagues evo's with 4g and to be honest I'm not impressed with the speed.

The theoretical max of 3G is 7.2Mbps. I astonish people in that I can hit NEAR 5 at home, I've never heard of anyone scraping anything above that. So I'm with ya there, 4G will probably perform well below it's theoretical speed, I've heard some say more so than 3G. (By comparison, if you look at most Speed test websites they say the average 3G user clocks in at just under 1mbps, so that's 1/7th of it's theoretical max!)

I also heard Leo Laporte mention on one of his podcasts an excellent, excellent point about 4G. 3G is starting to get plagued more and more by smartphone users sucking down massive amounts of data from the same tower. Basically, bandwidth being tapped out. I dunno about you guys but 3G is useless in very populated areas for me, like at the mall for instance. I was trying to pull something up in the parking lot, full signal. Worthless. Ran a speed test, wopping 85kbps downstream. So then, what Leo was saying is, what makes us think 4G will be any better? It's still shared bandwidth, and at first it will be great because only a handful of people will have it, but soon they all will and anywhere populated it becomes very tapped out.

I should mention that I live near St.Louis, and in the City of St.Louis, any cell carrier will do. However, outside of the city AT&T is king. All of the others strictly cover the interstates, and barely branch out at all, and almost none of them have decent 3G. Sprint, for example, stops 20 minutes out of the city and goes to EDGE and stays that way. AT&T offers 3G over almost the entire state, including the VERY rural areas. Therefore, since most folks often have a reason to be out of the city, (like myself who lives an hour outside the city in a rural town) the VAST majority of St.Louisans (in my experience) use AT&T. The exception would be friends of mine who live in some of the suburbs right outside the city, or in downtown itself (then it's Sprint or T-Mobile usually). Anyway, point being, where I live may be an extreme example of bandwidth overload, but I still think 4G isn't going to be all it's cracked up to be.
 
You guys care way too much about 4G, I bet you guys had to wiki it too. 4G is too new to care about, sprints 4g sucks, verizon is not even officially released, At&t is still on paper. Most of the benefits of CDMA 4G is available for GSM 3G. Your going to be waiting a minimum of 5 years before 4G is anything worth looking at.

As for OLED, it is inferior to the retina screen, while the OLED is richer in color, if the retina screen had color optimization I'm sure it would be better.

1080p- is pointless, you need a minimum of 14 inch screen and look 6 inches away to see the difference between 1080p and 720p. Not to mention a true 1080p (recorded in 1080P) movie will take up atleast half your memory if not all. And recording 1080p will quickly fill your phone up.

This year will not be about power, technology, or design; it will be about the big time games that will compete with consoles.
 
You guys care way too much about 4G, I bet you guys had to wiki it too. 4G is too new to care about, sprints 4g sucks, verizon is not even officially released, At&t is still on paper. Most of the benefits of CDMA 4G is available for GSM 3G. Your going to be waiting a minimum of 5 years before 4G is anything worth looking at.

As for OLED, it is inferior to the retina screen, while the OLED is richer in color, if the retina screen had color optimization I'm sure it would be better.

1080p- is pointless, you need a minimum of 14 inch screen and look 6 inches away to see the difference between 1080p and 720p. Not to mention a true 1080p (recorded in 1080P) movie will take up atleast half your memory if not all. And recording 1080p will quickly fill your phone up.

This year will not be about power, technology, or design; it will be about the big time games that will compete with consoles.

Actually, VZW's 4G is officially live. 4G is nice as far as having an alternative network in a populated area as the previous user mentioned. I do agree with the 1080p comment for a phone. I recall reading somewhere that you cannot tell the different between 720p and 1080p until you reach a 50"+ TVs. So it won't matter on a phone unless you use it to tether as your primary home Internet connection.
 
All this potential '4G' speed doesn't mean jack to me as I sit in my office all day long with between 'no service' and about 1/10th of 1 signal bar. *shakes fist at ATT
 
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