I also use notes plus (with my Air 2). In my tests it's much more capable than other note program. However, as I understand it, it has not been updated for the Apple Pencil (in fact it has not been updated in quite a while). So, I just wonder how that affects working with Apple Pencil. Does pressure sensitivity work? Palm rejection?
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What's it like taking notes with the Pencil?
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Microsoft OneNote has OCR built in http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/19/m...-platforms-ipad-app-gets-handwriting-support/
Interesting. But as I read it, it will not convert handwritten notes, it's just for search.
Palm rejection has always worked. Pressure sensitivity no but the pens and inks simulate natural flow.
I was also wondering this. I am going to start PA school this summer and there are tons and tons of slides. I think the iPad Pro would be perfect for notetaking. Now I am just trying to decide between the 12.9 or 9.7! I have the iPad Air 2 and a 13-inch MBP. I will be giving my air 2 to my SO but still cannot decide which IPP to get. I did test the 12.9 at best buy with notability and it was amazing. Love that it has palm rejection!
Correct - OneNote can read handwritten notes, but does not convert them to text (The Windows version of OneNote does convert handwriting to text, so maybe they will bring that to Mac/iOS sometime in the future).
Notes Plus does an excellent job of converting handwriting to text. As an added benefit, you can copy and paste the converted text into other apps, such as OneNote or Notability.
I took 4 pages of notes in my Math class last night with Notability and PDF Expert running in split screen mode. I was deeply impressed by how well it worked out. I can see the iPad Pro and Apple Pencil becoming my go to notebook in future semesters. I'll have to look into OneNote and Notes Plus for OCR capabilities.
after a couple days with the pencil back in the box as an experiment if I really wanted to keep it/need it I have noticed few times that it would have been handy but still nothing i couldn't just flip out the kb for.
one was a phone convo I was having and needed to just jot down notes real fast. This wouldn't have been an issue to just type up on notes but i was running around trying to do stuff while one the phone at the same time to it made that a little more tedious. The pencil would have been nice here but not sure I need it yet.
secondly was at my kids tae kwon do i was leaning forward doing homework while my ipp was on a bench in front of my seat. It would have been nice to have the pencil because i was doing side by side and a few times the links on the screen were small and required a little more gesture input to access without miss touching another link. This was a minor interrupt in my work flow and would have been nice to have the pencil but then you still have to take into account that I would have had to take my hands off the kb to grab the pencil and then put it back down. So which would have been more of an interrupt? I dunno.
The pencil is a must for artists and I can see it being a huge convenience around the office for just jotting notes but for me I think I can do without for now. I am sure that in the future os's it is going to be adapted os wide and within more third party apps and I will gladly pick up another pencil then as it is a nice piece of tech.
one was a phone convo I was having and needed to just jot down notes real fast. This wouldn't have been an issue to just type up on notes but i was running around trying to do stuff while one the phone at the same time to it made that a little more tedious. The pencil would have been nice here but not sure I need it yet.
secondly was at my kids tae kwon do i was leaning forward doing homework while my ipp was on a bench in front of my seat. It would have been nice to have the pencil because i was doing side by side and a few times the links on the screen were small and required a little more gesture input to access without miss touching another link. This was a minor interrupt in my work flow and would have been nice to have the pencil but then you still have to take into account that I would have had to take my hands off the kb to grab the pencil and then put it back down. So which would have been more of an interrupt? I dunno.
The pencil is a must for artists and I can see it being a huge convenience around the office for just jotting notes but for me I think I can do without for now. I am sure that in the future os's it is going to be adapted os wide and within more third party apps and I will gladly pick up another pencil then as it is a nice piece of tech.
I found the pencil had much less friction while writing on the screen, when compared to a ball point.
You get used to it pretty fast and other than that it works great. Only wish is that it would convert my handwriting to text.
You get used to it pretty fast and other than that it works great. Only wish is that it would convert my handwriting to text.
Sign me up for the, best writing (and drawing) implement ever to touch an iPad and I've had lots of styli over the years to compare it to. It wins without breaking a sweat.
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I'm using a matte screen protector on mine at the moment, it does feel closer to the real thing. Albeit the image is ever so slightly softer, though not as bad as these kinds of protectors used be.
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I'm using a matte screen protector on mine at the moment, it does feel closer to the real thing. Albeit the image is ever so slightly softer, though not as bad as these kinds of protectors used be.
I know that a protector can help with stylus feel but I HATE screen protectors.
Microsoft did a good job of offering different tip styles with the latest Surface; I'm hoping Apple takes a cue and gets on board soon. There are a million different types of pens and pencils, we should have some options here."There's an app for that"
Goodnotes amongst others will convert to text.
That would be nice, doubt it would cope with my scrawling though, even I have trouble with that sometimes
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I know that a protector can help with stylus feel but I HATE screen protectors.
Oh, it's Apple, I'm sure they will at some point. It's not as if they're going to bypass an opportunity to make more money
I use the iPad Pro to take trial notes. I have been using a stylus since the first iPad and cannot recommend the Apple Pencil more. My handwriting is like a sloppy serial killer's attempts to write Chinese as it is and this fine point and responsiveness really helps. My only criticisms are that it doesn't come in black, loose cap (I have a moxiware magnetic sleeve that is black and a silicon holder for the cap, it looks like a special needs Apple Pencil), overly long for storage and does not have the eraser function of the Pencil by 53 (if you think the Apple Pencil is too expensive or do not have the iPad Pro in any configuration, it is worth a purchase) or the Microsoft Stylus.
Bottom line, if you are an artist, it is great for drawings (stick figures are somewhat of an enigma to me, but an artist friend of mine drew a photo realistic picture in Notes!). If you want to use it for note taking, it is really the best you will get.
If the lack of eraser function is an issue (given my terrible handwriting this is important to me) Notes Plus has always had a feature that permits you to strikeout quickly what you want erased and is pretty good. It is why I use it as my primary note taking app. Notesthelf is great, too as it seem the best combo of opening up a .pdf and marking it up and taking notes as you wish. That is just my opinion, there are a ton of great note taking apps you really can't go wrong when you have the Apple Pencil as part of the equation. Also, if I didn't keep my notes on an iPad, I would use the same pad for multiple cases and lose my notes all the time.
Bottom line, if you are an artist, it is great for drawings (stick figures are somewhat of an enigma to me, but an artist friend of mine drew a photo realistic picture in Notes!). If you want to use it for note taking, it is really the best you will get.
If the lack of eraser function is an issue (given my terrible handwriting this is important to me) Notes Plus has always had a feature that permits you to strikeout quickly what you want erased and is pretty good. It is why I use it as my primary note taking app. Notesthelf is great, too as it seem the best combo of opening up a .pdf and marking it up and taking notes as you wish. That is just my opinion, there are a ton of great note taking apps you really can't go wrong when you have the Apple Pencil as part of the equation. Also, if I didn't keep my notes on an iPad, I would use the same pad for multiple cases and lose my notes all the time.
That would be nice, doubt it would cope with my scrawling though, even I have trouble with that sometimes
My handwriting sucks bigtime, to the point where I can hardly read it sometimes... Goodnotes rarely has trouble converting to text. It's really, really good if you ask me. Add to that that it in my opinion beats Notability on pure writing experience, and options, and that leaves Goodnotes as the winner in my book.
Hmmm, interesting. I'm normally a Notability guy but I think I may just have to delve deeper into Goodnotes. Any excuse to play with my Pencil.
...... No that is not a euphemism
I've been a long-time Goodnotes user and knew that I remembered that it had added handwriting conversion at some point, but I had to go to the manual to figure out how to use it (something pretty rare with a program that has managed to retain its elegant simplicity for many years). It looks like the only way to use it at the moment is to manually select text with the lasso tool and then export that text. It seems like an option to convert an entire page, pages, or notebooks would be a lot more useful.
NotesPlus can do that. You can convert a whole page. It also can convert the whole document so that you can search it.
Goodnotes. OCR on your handwriting and convert your handwriting to text. Fully search all your notes in your own handwriting.
Goodnotes automatically makes all notes searchable, but unless I'm missing something, if you want to actually convert it to text, you have to manually select it and export it. Not something I need to do; searchable is good enough for me.
If you want system wide kb control in a very nice package and/or a great stylus (coming from someone that is returning their pencil) then the upgrade is awesome! Like i have posted several times in this thread I sold my macbook air and love my pro for all the things it does the same if not better than the macbook. Though, for me, the pencil isn't needed right now. I am starting my MBA so I will get one again by years end maybe, I would definitely get one if an eraser function is built in the top end.from all the comments I'm really tempted for the upgrade
I've only had the pencil for one day and it already came in handy. My class and test was cancelled, so it was emailed to us as a take-home test, all multiple choice. So I just circled all the answers in word and emailed it back to the professor.
I got my iPP+Pencil on Tue; on Wed tried to use it bit for work but it feels still bit toy-ish (Notes Plus: not great support IMHO, Notability is ok, but I think I need really something bit more technical drawing and less note taking software). Now considering trying OmniGraffle but it's pretty heft priced, at least the Mac version is pretty nice..
(My notes consist mostly of technical diagrams of various types and e.g. Omnigraffle on Mac seemed to be somewhat more cumbersome to use than freeform drawing on the iPP, but results also look much better and e.g. reorganizing diagrams isn't really handy with the note taking programs I tried.)
Still, Notability seems decent replacement for my paper notebook, remains to be seen what I use in the long term.
(My notes consist mostly of technical diagrams of various types and e.g. Omnigraffle on Mac seemed to be somewhat more cumbersome to use than freeform drawing on the iPP, but results also look much better and e.g. reorganizing diagrams isn't really handy with the note taking programs I tried.)
Still, Notability seems decent replacement for my paper notebook, remains to be seen what I use in the long term.