What's keeping the magic mouse from 3+ finger gestures?

Discussion in 'Mac Accessories' started by maclook, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. maclook macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    not too sure how multitouch tech works. is it software or hardware? if it's the hardware does that mean that it runs on the same tech as my 2007 macbook's trackpad?
  2. Goaliegeek macrumors 6502a


    Apr 13, 2009
  3. maclook thread starter macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    i thought it might be software and that Apple may be hiding the potential of the magic mouse for later similar to how the iPhone has some hidden potential that is unlocked later. unlike the iphone though, it doesn't make sense why Apple would downplay the magic mouse's capabilities for later
  4. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
    Because with 3 fingers you'd either throw that baby off to the side, or if you COULD hold the thing steady between your thumb and little finger you'd do irreparable harm to your hand using the index,middle and ring fingers at the same time.
  5. maclook thread starter macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    multitouch doesnt only have to go side to side. a quick 3 finger swipe up or down for expose seems easy to me.
    i dont understand why there aren't 2 finger swipe up/down functions
  6. ventro macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2006
    I'm using a magic mouse right now. It's incredibly easy to do 3 finger swipes down on the surface - i'd say easier than the back forward swipes.
  7. Buzz Bumble Guest

    Oct 19, 2008
    New Zealand
    The two finger gesture is bad enough to try to use, three would just be silly for most people ... the mouse would be all over the desk trying to perform them.
  8. maclook thread starter macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    again, i think you're thinking of swiping left and right which to me is unintuitive from the start with 2 fingers (though i havent tried it out myself). a dedicated function for swiping up and down for 2 and 3 fingers seems intuitive while adding four more functions to the one-button mouse (hopefully thats not too confusing since i just used numbers 1-4 in that sentence)
  9. rgarjr macrumors 603


    Apr 2, 2009
    Southern California
    Well the thing is, you need to use your palms to hold the mouse in place while you use your 3 fingers to gesture.
  10. maclook thread starter macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008

    dude, touch your pinky and thumb and swipe up with your remaining middle 3 fingers. really easy and natural. its the same with a mouse in your hand. you dont need to use your palm to hold the mouse or any of that craziness.
  11. ventro macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2006
    Seriously. This is the second person i've seen on this forum that's forgotten we have 5 fingers.
  12. Dybbuk macrumors 6502a

    Aug 8, 2006
    While I don't like the Magic Mouse at all, one thing I did notice is that it's totally easy to simply lift your hand off the mouse and gently swipe it to do gestures. Don't see the big deal.
  13. mcpryon2 macrumors 6502a


    Dec 12, 2008
    Recently I discovered that I use a mouse differently than my friends. I hold it with my thumb and pinky and kind of glide it around, my palm never touches it. I think that's why some people don't understand how three-finger gestures can't be implemented. But I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority.
  14. mrstep macrumors newbie

    Aug 27, 2006
    Late reply but...

    Yeah, I noticed the same thing. People talk about how this mouse doesn't support their hand - my hand is always just behind the mouse and I move it with my fingers - hand slightly left-right for side-to-side, fingers forwards-backwards for up/down, so there's no support no matter how high the mouse.

    I've been mousing around since 1986 and don't have hand problems yet either - maybe it's a better way? Maybe I'm just lucky? In any case I can't imagine actually resting my hand on the mouse.

    Would also love to see 2/3 finger up/down gestures supported for expose/spaces/etc. Only problem(s) with the mouse so far - the resolution seems too low, so even with the acceleration, I'd rather have the actual base tracking speed be higher, and I sometimes get odd bluetooth dropouts (actual disconnects). Maybe I have a bad mouse?
  15. maclook thread starter macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    for those who don't know yet, BetterTouchTool allows for everything I wanted in the magic mouse. I haven't ordered the mouse yet, but BTT pretty much makes the magic mouse a must buy for me. It's great that the mouse's hardware is capable. For more information check out this thread:
  16. ventro macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2006
    Yep, bettertouchtool makes the Magic Mouse what it should have always been.
  17. puma1552 macrumors 603

    Nov 20, 2008
    Uhh perhaps it's you who can't count? pinky+thumb+three remaining fingers=5...

    Why use a 3 finger swipe for expose? the two finger swipe is unassigned, just use that for expose.
  18. mpuck972 macrumors 6502


    Aug 31, 2007
    The only two finger swipe available on the MM is the forwards and backwards. There is no option to set expose to anything.
  19. puma1552 macrumors 603

    Nov 20, 2008
    that was my point, it was more of a call for apple to assign the two finger downswipe to expose since it has nothing assigned to it yet, sorry for the confusion.

    the magic mouse is an expose swipe away from being fantastic, but since mac os x doesnt have a taskbar like windows, i have no interest in minimizing every window to get to the one i want
  20. maclook thread starter macrumors 65816

    Nov 2, 2008
    1. in SL, use dock expose by holding down on the apps icon
    2. use your keyboard shortcut key (mine is set to F11)
    3. download bettertouchtool and set 3 finger swipe down for expose
    4. use command+`

    i think you are too accustomed to Windows OS if you resort to minimizing windows.
  21. ventro macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2006
    I hope you're not being serious. Pinky and thumb hold down the mighty mouse, giving you just enough fingers to execute three finger gestures with ease. How is this confusing to anyone? I'm doing it right now.

    Having now tried two finger swipe down for expose with he magic mouse, it's confirmed my idea: it's way too easy to accidentally trigger it when you are meaning to scroll (also, if you turn it on, you can't scroll by resting your middle finger on the mouse and scrolling with your pointer). You have to only have 1 finger on the mouse at all times unless you want to accidentally trigger expose. It's a real pain. I turned on 3 finger swipes up and down for expose and it was all perfect. Install BetterTouchTool and try it for yourself, you'll see i'm right.
  22. Tobuscus macrumors newbie

    Jun 19, 2010
    Aww.. totally thought it'd have the 3 finger swipe up and down for expose. Or 4. They should definitely just sell a Wacom-esque block similar to the trackpad. That'd be fun.

    After trying it out for a bit I think it's better to just stick with something like a Logitech G500. Left click, right click, mousewheel for scrolling, then 3 buttons on the left side of the mouse for back/forward/expose with USB overdrive.

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