What's missing from iPad?

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People say that the iPad isn't yet there yet to be a main computer or replace a Mac. I see their point. Though I wish there was no shortcomings.

What sort of things do you think iOS needs before you can ditch your Mac or laptop for an iPad?
 

sonicrobby

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Id like an option to "open in" the native music app.
A recovery mode to restore the OS without a PC
Personally though, I would need solidworks or some other major 3D CAD program for iOS.
 
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casperes1996

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I mean - I never could. I use Final Cut Pro on a day to day basis, and I always need as much power as I can get. Honestly though, if I didn't require pro apps, I'd say all the iPad really needs, is a faster way to do everything. Not a faster chip, but a faster way to actually navigate between things. More peripherals would be nice too. And app support for things like Maple, or that app that my school uses to manage printing. Not exactly major things, but small meaningful things. Though I should point out that one of my teachers actually does use an iPad instead of a computer most the time. Not always, but for most classes. It's just not viable for everyone, and students literally aren't allowed to use it, because it isn't compatible with required school software. Only Mac and Windows... And if you know how to compile your own source codes, you can get it running on Linux too.

Oh, and more keyboard shortcuts for everything.
 

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Echoing sonicrobby -- the ability to 'open in' a music file in the Music app would allow me to manage songs I record or rip from CD's I have purchased without iTunes.
Eliminating need to use iTunes to un-brick an iDevice.
Allow me to mount a USB hard drive on my iPad to move files to/from apps and/or iCloud Drive.
Basically, really removing any remaining ties to the desktop at a system level.

RwP
 
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People say that the iPad isn't yet there yet to be a main computer or replace a Mac. I see their point. Though I wish there was no shortcomings.

What sort of things do you think iOS needs before you can ditch your Mac or laptop for an iPad?
For the iPad to replace some of the things my laptop/PC does, it first needs to make the file system accessible so that I can freely transfer files to and from it regardless of what app is tied to the file type.

Other things would be to have either the ability to set global app defaults or at least the ability to override the default app tied to the file type.

It's silly and backwards to silo data for one app only when many times, you want the freedom to choose what app is launched and to do what.
 

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For the iPad to replace some of the things my laptop/PC does, it first needs to make the file system accessible so that I can freely transfer files to and from it regardless of what app is tied to the file type.

Other things would be to have either the ability to set global app defaults or at least the ability to override the default app tied to the file type.

It's silly and backwards to silo data for one app only when many times, you want the freedom to choose what app is launched and to do what.
To a large extend I agree with this, but I also think it would be sad if this happened to iOS, as i think the current model works really well for what the devices are, and is really simple. If they really want to be full desktop replacements, they probably need to go this route, but I don't think they should aspire for that
 
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People say that the iPad isn't yet there yet to be a main computer or replace a Mac. I see their point. Though I wish there was no shortcomings.

What sort of things do you think iOS needs before you can ditch your Mac or laptop for an iPad?
It depends on your needs.

If all you need to do is browse the web, watch youtube, use email, and write office documents and use PDF viewers a iPad would work.

If you need to run Windows software for class the iPad wouldn't be able to do it. For a general note taking machine I don't see why an iPad wouldn't work. I would check with your university to see if they have recommendations. If they say an iPad will do the job then it will do the job.
 

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To a large extend I agree with this, but I also think it would be sad if this happened to iOS, as i think the current model works really well for what the devices are, and is really simple. If they really want to be full desktop replacements, they probably need to go this route, but I don't think they should aspire for that
And until they do, the iPad will never as be flexible or powerful as other solutions and why Windows will continue to eat away to the iPad market share.

Apple can poise the iPad as a viable laptop/PC alternative or continue to keep it as a niche product.

I know what I'd like to see happen...the question is does Apple have the initiative and the boldness to take the iPad to the next level?
 

casperes1996

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And until they do, the iPad will never as be flexible or powerful as other solutions and why Windows will continue to eat away to the iPad market share.

Apple can poise the iPad as a viable laptop/PC alternative or continue to keep it as a niche product.

I know what I'd like to see happen...the question is does Apple have the initiative and the boldness to take the iPad to the next level?
I wouldn't want to lose what the iPad currently is though - it's a great extension to my setup with laptop and desktop as separate devices. Besides, if you compare to similar devices, it's not exactly like Windows devices are doing brilliantly compared to iPads. But if you need a laptop replacement device, I would suggest a Surface, not an iPad, yes. At least if you need more than browsing and YouTube
 
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I say this every time it comes up: an open file management system.

The apps are too sandboxed. Each one is like it's own little world and sometimes they can interact with each other in specific ways. But it's often inconvenient if not impossible to stick files in specific places of my choosing, not associated with a certain app for using that file, or to open something in a particular app, or even attach certain files to emails or messages. I understand why iOS is like this. It offers advantages in simplicity, efficiency (of the system, not necessarily for the user), and security. And while there are many tasks that I love just grabbing my iPad to perform, there are still occasions when I say, "this will be easier if I just pull out my laptop".

That being said, I don't necessarily feel that my iPad or any other tablet needs to replace my laptop. I'm fine with them filling different niches.
 

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That being said, I don't necessarily feel that my iPad or any other tablet needs to replace my laptop. I'm fine with them filling different niches.
Exactly. The file management system needs to be changed if the iPad should replace a laptop - but should it? As it stands, I like them being separate, and the iOS file system works well for the kind of things I use mine for.
 
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I wouldn't want to lose what the iPad currently is though - it's a great extension to my setup with laptop and desktop as separate devices. Besides, if you compare to similar devices, it's not exactly like Windows devices are doing brilliantly compared to iPads. But if you need a laptop replacement device, I would suggest a Surface, not an iPad, yes. At least if you need more than browsing and YouTube
The inclusion of what I wrote plus the added feature of a mouse device would complement what the iPad offers already.

No one is advocating replacement of the touch interface or abandonment of thousands of apps in the App Store. Rather extend the iPad capabilities in new areas and new ways...
 

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The inclusion of what I wrote plus the added feature of a mouse device would complement what the iPad offers already.

No one is advocating replacement of the touch interface or abandonment of thousands of apps in the App Store. Rather extend the iPad capabilities in new areas and new ways...
Right, but changing file handling is a big enough change that it would fundamentally alter the interaction paradigm of the device, not to mention how it would impact existing software relying on a certain data structure that could be changed at any time.
 

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Restore mode to get your iPad back up and running is a biggie for me, and should be for Apple. Sold my MacBook Pro since I don't need it, and now why do I suffer if something goes wrong with my iPad and I can't get it back up and running again? Stupid Apple
 
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I'd like to see more friction between the screen and the Pencil so that it would feel more like writing on paper.

The Watch should sync to the iPad and the iPad should be able to make and receive phone calls then I could ditch the iPhone.

Everything else is software related.
 

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I was just thinking to myself earlier that I'm seeing Microsofts OneDrive app being integrated slightly better than iCloud's Drive.

One particular scenario was downloading a PDF from the web on iPad. I wanted to save it directly to iCloud Drive but no option existed except for iBooks. OneDrive was able to import it. I wonder if I've missed something here or if Apple will fix this in the future.

Preview for iPad would be a revolution! In my opinion one of the greatest small aspects of macOS
 

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I was just thinking to myself earlier that I'm seeing Microsofts OneDrive app being integrated slightly better than iCloud's Drive.

One particular scenario was downloading a PDF from the web on iPad. I wanted to save it directly to iCloud Drive but no option existed except for iBooks. OneDrive was able to import it. I wonder if I've missed something here or if Apple will fix this in the future.

Preview for iPad would be a revolution! In my opinion one of the greatest small aspects of macOS
Think that one was on your part - Just opened a PDF from the internet on my iPad, and if you click "More" There's an "Add to iCloud Drive" option right there.
 
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Right, but changing file handling is a big enough change that it would fundamentally alter the interaction paradigm of the device, not to mention how it would impact existing software relying on a certain data structure that could be changed at any time.
No it wouldn't. File management for all intents and purposes would just be another app on the device. File management in app wouldn't have to change.
 

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For the iPad to replace some of the things my laptop/PC does, it first needs to make the file system accessible so that I can freely transfer files to and from it regardless of what app is tied to the file type.

Other things would be to have either the ability to set global app defaults or at least the ability to override the default app tied to the file type.

It's silly and backwards to silo data for one app only when many times, you want the freedom to choose what app is launched and to do what.

AND iOSX OS
 

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Think that one was on your part - Just opened a PDF from the internet on my iPad, and if you click "More" There's an "Add to iCloud Drive" option right there.
Oh my god, how did I miss this?!

That's awesome to me. Thanks!
 
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And until they do, the iPad will never as be flexible or powerful as other solutions and why Windows will continue to eat away to the iPad market share.

Apple can poise the iPad as a viable laptop/PC alternative or continue to keep it as a niche product.

I know what I'd like to see happen...the question is does Apple have the initiative and the boldness to take the iPad to the next level?
I guess only time will tell what Apple will do but from everything I do it works just fine but I don't go outside of the standard box of things myself someday that may change and that's why I still have my
2015 rMBP in my personal line up just in case that day comes
 
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