What's next?

gladoscc

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We have the credit-card sized full SIM card, the miniSIM (the ones that dumbphones use), the microSIM (iPhone 4(S)), and now the nanoSIM.

What's next? Integrated SoIP (SIM over Internet Protocol) where you go to AT&T, give them your phone's IMEI and they change your SIM over the network?

Wait, I need to patent this.
 

darster

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Aug 25, 2011
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Much better idea, you turn your phone on, in settings you search for available networks, and choose which one you wish to use. No sim cards. Bypass having to sign contracts, etc. You have a phone number that you can move from network to network for any 30 day period or more if you wish. Your choice, real competition, and better service.
 

justperry

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Apple tried to get a eSim of the ground but was met with resistance from the providers.
I wish they succeeded, changing SIM for people who travel a lot is a pain, although the iPhone makes it a lot easier than some other phones where the SIM is under the battery.
 

Moshe1010

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Apple tried to get a eSim of the ground but was met with resistance from the providers.
I wish they succeeded, changing SIM for people who travel a lot is a pain, although the iPhone makes it a lot easier than some other phones where the SIM is under the battery.
I prefer a SIM under the battery because then I can actually replace a battery and put a new one, without charging it every 5 seconds.
 

nostresshere

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Who really cares.


(and not to OP - is it that hard to use a few more words and post a DESCRIPTIVE TITLE?)
 

Vetvito

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We have the credit-card sized full SIM card, the miniSIM (the ones that dumbphones use), the microSIM (iPhone 4(S)), and now the nanoSIM.

What's next? Integrated SoIP (SIM over Internet Protocol) where you go to AT&T, give them your phone's IMEI and they change your SIM over the network?

Wait, I need to patent this.
Lol, you mean CDMA esn numbers?
 

Applejuiced

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I really like having sims and be able to swap and switch them.
I wouldnt want to deal with dialing numbers and stuff like CDMA old phones did.
I like to be able to go to the corner store, pick up a sim. Use it, recharge it. Throw it away, get a new number. Take my sim out, put it in the old phone and get instant service etc..
 

justperry

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I prefer a SIM under the battery because then I can actually replace a battery and put a new one, without charging it every 5 seconds.
I remember my old BB Curve, takes ages to boot up after changing the SIM, glad I have an iPhone now.

I really like having sims and be able to swap and switch them.
I wouldnt want to deal with dialing numbers and stuff like CDMA old phones did.
I like to be able to go to the corner store, pick up a sim. Use it, recharge it. Throw it away, get a new number. Take my sim out, put it in the old phone and get instant service etc..
In many countries when you get a prepaid SIM you still have to dial a number or send an SMS to activate so eSIM or SIM would make little difference.
 

Applejuiced

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In many countries when you get a prepaid SIM you still have to dial a number or send an SMS to activate so eSIM or SIM would make little difference.
I think its a toll free number you have to dial in some countries to activate the sim for security purposes.
I think its still nice and easy to have sims than having to deal with ESN's and phone numbers to dial and prompts like *##082# like on CDMA carriers.
Who wants to remember that instead of just switching a tiny sim.
 

justperry

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I think its a toll free number you have to dial in some countries to activate the sim for security purposes.
I think its still nice and easy to have sims than having to deal with ESN's and phone numbers to dial and prompts like *##082# like on CDMA carriers.
Who wants to remember that instead of just switching a tiny sim.
Sure, it is always free to activate the new SIM.

I think actually there are a lot of users here from the states who never had prepaid SIM cards, SIM or eSIM would make no difference whatsoever.

The only thing that prevents eSIM's are the providers, they don't want you to go to a different provider for obvious reasons.
 

Applejuiced

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Sure, it is always free to activate the new SIM.

I think actually there are a lot of users here from the states who never had prepaid SIM cards, SIM or eSIM would make no difference whatsoever.

The only thing that prevents eSIM's are the providers, they don't want you to go to a different provider for obvious reasons.
Interesting. I also heard its the providers that opposed it the most.
But if the phone is still locked for example or you're still under contract you still wont be able to go to another provider and use it.
 

GimmeSlack12

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You want to know what's next?

Not looking at your phone. Being able to get the same amount of information that you currently do from your iPhone without actually looking at it, or taking it out of your pocket, or touching your phone at all.

That's what is next.
 

Dominicanyor

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I really like having sims and be able to swap and switch them.
I wouldnt want to deal with dialing numbers and stuff like CDMA old phones did.
I like to be able to go to the corner store, pick up a sim. Use it, recharge it. Throw it away, get a new number. Take my sim out, put it in the old phone and get instant service etc..
This world is getting lazier everyday!!!!
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Interesting. I also heard its the providers that opposed it the most.
But if the phone is still locked for example or you're still under contract you still wont be able to go to another provider and use it.
True, if the phone is still locked, what difference does it make to them if it uses SIM or eSIM?
 

Applejuiced

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You want to know what's next?

Not looking at your phone. Being able to get the same amount of information that you currently do from your iPhone without actually looking at it, taking it out of your pocket, touching your phone.

That's what is next.
Yes.
Transfer info/data from your phone and communicate it to your brain telepathically.
Sign me up for a preorder of that iphone:D
 

justperry

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Interesting. I also heard its the providers that opposed it the most.
But if the phone is still locked for example or you're still under contract you still wont be able to go to another provider and use it.
True, my opinion is that there should be no locks at all on phones(and no contracts), there are quite a few countries where it is illegal to lock phones, rightfully so.
They lock it so they can squeeze more money out of you, especially the States are good at it.
 

Applejuiced

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True, my opinion is that there should be no locks at all on phones(and no contracts), there are quite a few countries where it is illegal to lock phones, rightfully so.
They lock it so they can squeeze more money out of you, especially the States are good at it.
Exactly.
What is the point of locking the actual phone when you are locking me into a 2 year contract anyway? If I want to get out I will pay the ETF but for those 24 months that Im paying you how come I cant use my phone any way I want to?
Outside the US on trips with other prepaid gsm sims etc...
Doesnt make much sense. At least in the US they did started unlocking iphones now.
For over 4 years there was no unlocking an iphone at all in with AT&T.
 

justperry

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Exactly.
What is the point of locking the actual phone when you are locking me into a 2 year contract anyway? If I want to get out I will pay the ETF but for those 24 months that Im paying you how come I cant use my phone any way I want to?
Outside the US on trips with other prepaid gsm sims etc...
Doesnt make much sense. At least in the US they did started unlocking iphones now.
For over 4 years there was no unlocking an iphone at all in with AT&T.
Actually there is, if your phone is locked and you go oversees you can only roam and the provider makes more money from you.( Not included in contract)
Getting a prepaid is MUCH cheaper than roaming though.
 

GimmeSlack12

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Yes.
Transfer info/data from your phone and communicate it to your brain telepathically.
Sign me up for a preorder of that iphone:D
Sort of like that. Such a feature would be like the Google goggles. But I really believe that the new killer features of mobile devices will be a revolution in hands-free operation.

I look forward to Apple's implementation of Google goggles.
 
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