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It’s not clear from the story if this was a travelling companion or a stranger asked for directions.
Sorry, a stranger.

A complete and utter stranger.
If the first I’d have told them you’ll make your own way and see who gets there first.
Indeed.

If the second I’d have left them to their own devices.
In future, I may well do this.

After asking a rhetorical question (as to whether they believed Google maps, or the evidence of their eyes) I did tell them to suit themselves and withdrew from the exchange.
 
persisted in citing Google maps, adamantly insisting that this was correct, rather than listening to (having initially sought advice and answers) responses based on what eyes observed (what you could, and would see, in terms of desired destinations, at the following bus-stop), or what long lived experience had dictated how one could best interpret one's environment.

I live in a city a lot of tourists visit. I encounter similar behavior not infrequently. It's really strange; if you're so convinced your phone is correct, why did you ask me for advice? And people have to be pretty motivated to stop me. I don't look very approachable to strangers (even charity muggers tend to avoid me, ha!), walk at a brisk pace, and don't offer to help confused tourists on my own.

I'll be traveling to Chicago in two weeks, and will be utilizing the public transit quite a bit I presume. When I do, I definitely won't be relying on a GPS. I'll look at Apple Maps to see where the place is and which stops to get off at, but that's it. If I know which stops to get off at, I can use an official transit map to find the most efficient way to get there.

As a former resident of Chicago and frequent El rider, I'd say GPS can be useful when exiting an El stop. There aren't a lot of physical features (such as a mountain visible from everywhere or an isolated tall building) to help orient yourself, especially when leaving stops that are underground or don't have a view of the lake or river. On the other hand, most of the streets adhere to a grid system and street names stay consistent for miles and miles.
 
Twice, in recent weeks, I have had what loosely might be described as "exchanges" with individuals, one of which occurred this past week-end on a bus, and both of whom had persisted in citing Google maps, adamantly insisting that this was correct, rather than listening to (having initially sought advice and answers) responses based on what eyes observed (what you could, and would see, in terms of desired destinations, at the following bus-stop), or what long lived experience had dictated how one could best interpret one's environment.

The bleated - endlessly repeated and increasingly truculent - responses "but this is what Google maps says" in reply to my suggested recommendations (as to which bus stop would suit their needs best re desired destination and a short subsequent distance to walk) led to aggressive questions "how do you know?" (I live here); "how long have you lived here?" (around half a century when I am not elsewhere); "do you realise it's lashing rain"? (Yes, I do, actually).

The replies between brackets would have been expressed by those wonderful thought bubbles visible in cartoons, as, while I certainly thought them, I did not actually give voice to them.

Eventually, irked by having to endlessly repeat myself, (and worse, actually justify citing my lived experience over an imperfect online source), I asked this individual (the question was rhetorical) whether they believed an online source over the evidence of their eyes.

Good grief.
Either side of this could be one of the "XKCD My Hobby" items, such as this recent one.
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They're always unusual, and often impractical, though neither affects the humor.

The two "hobbies" in this case would be:
For the questioner: My hobby: asking strangers for advice, then arguing with them about their qualifications for giving that advice.
For the questionee: My hobby: giving plausible but misleading advice to strangers who randomly ask for help.
 
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50% of the time? I can’t see that somehow. They aren’t perfect for sure. But in my experience they are right most of time.
"50% of the time" isn't consistent with my experience either.

However it's worth noting that there are people have a very hard time reading any map, paper or digital....sort of a map dyslexia

I have a cousin who completely freezes up when given a map. Even the simplest map of an area she knows well is meaningless to her.
 
Well, I should say, "more than half the time" to me means something very different because I hardly ever use GPS, because I don't drive or take public transportation all that much (college campus is residential), and when I do drive, I usually know where I'm going. (Except this afternoon, where I didn't realize the left lane ended in a left turn lane, traffic was too bad to get over, so I had to go all the way around and took 15 minutes longer than I thought to get there.)

On numerous occasions, when driving and the map talks to me, it does not tell me to turn until I've already missed the turn by several blocks (maybe not a fault on the GPS, but either way still counts as a failure to me). There have also been a few times where the map is out of date, or otherwise doesn't correctly identify where something is. One notable instance was a doctor's office. I put it in the map, got directions, and the place had moved (thankfully not that far away, but still enough for me to take another 10 minutes to figure out where it actually was).

Of course there's also the infamous occasion where when traveling with my family in Spain, the GPS said we had reached our hotel when we were out in the middle of nowhere, under a bridge.
 
So there’s an app called what three words. It’s the most clever idea and basically works like this.
They have decided the planet into a 1m grid. You can navigate to any 1m square if you know the three words they have given it. It’s brilliant. Especially if you’re trying to find a location in the middle of nowhere.


Much more accurate than a postcode or zip code.
 
So there’s an app called what three words. It’s the most clever idea and basically works like this.
They have decided the planet into a 1m grid. You can navigate to any 1m square if you know the three words they have given it. It’s brilliant. Especially if you’re trying to find a location in the middle of nowhere.


Much more accurate than a postcode or zip code.
Yes that is a brilliant idea. I have installed it though not used it yet. It could save lives too.
 
"50% of the time" isn't consistent with my experience either.

However it's worth noting that there are people have a very hard time reading any map, paper or digital....sort of a map dyslexia

I have a cousin who completely freezes up when given a map. Even the simplest map of an area she knows well is meaningless to her.
Personally, I love maps, - actual proper maps, printed on paper, and retain them, indeed, collect them, from my periods when working abroad.

Actually, I even have a few beautiful (if not entirely accurate) antique maps (dating from the 17th-18 centuries, and own two by by Johann Homann, for example).
 
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Personally, I love maps, - actual proper maps, printed on paper, and retain them, indeed, collect them, from my periods when working abroad.

Actually, I even have a few beautiful (if not entirely accurate) antique maps (dating from the 17th-18 centuries, and own two by by Johann Homann, for example).

Especially when a map is correctly oriented --

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We got a little bit of snow here in New Mexico. I was shocked to see it. It's already starting to melt though. I am glad I got out of Wisconsin when I did, though, because it's 10 below and I'm sure there's 8 inches of snow on the ground there.
 
Just over two weeks to the winter solstice, after which, I tell myself that the days will begin, in tiny baby steps, ever so slowly, to lengthen.

I can hardly wait.
I'm 100% with you on this..I cannot wait for the days to begin to lengthen again. I celebrate this day with more enthusiasm than I celebrate Christmas. And, with each year, as I grow older and detest winter more, my celebration becomes more exuberant!
 
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Just over two weeks to the winter solstice, after which, I tell myself that the days will begin, in tiny baby steps, ever so slowly, to lengthen.
I'm one of those folks who likes the shorter days, the colder weather, I actually like camping in the winter, life and circumstances have conspired against me from getting out camping so far, but either the weekend of the 20th or some time in January.
 
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Received flu and Covid vaccines tonight. Poorly planned because I have a gig tomorrow. Hope I feel better by then, if not I will take lots of Ibuprofen.
 
On the other hand, I am looking forward to my trip to Chicago for the Midwest Clinic in just over a week. Hoping I learn a lot on many different topics related to music education, and that this is worthwhile. (If it is, I'll likely go again, and if not, I won't.) I'm hoping it doesn't further worsen my anxiety about how I'd actually get into the field given my somewhat unusual (in the context of licensure and rigid requirements) musical background.
 
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I'm one of those folks who likes the shorter days, the colder weather, I actually like camping in the winter, life and circumstances have conspired against me from getting out camping so far, but either the weekend of the 20th or some time in January.

I enjoy the winter, and shorter days too. The snow and salt - not so much. I dread the humidity of summer.
 
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I detest winter: At the moment, it is not daylight until after 8.00 (am), while darkness has already fallen by around 16.00 (today, it was closer to 15.00, for the day dawned to the sight of dismal, dreary, charcoal skies, which were a source of incessant drizzle).
 
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I got out of Wisconsin at the perfect time. Weather not getting far above 0 as far as I can tell from the weather app. And I doubt it’s much lighter there than in Northern Europe.
 
I detest winter: At the moment, it is not daylight until after 8.00 (am), while darkness has already fallen by around 16.00 (today, it was closer to 15.00, for the day dawned to the sight of dismal, dreary, charcoal skies, which were a source of incessant drizzle).
Oh yes, while I love something about every season, and for example love the snow AND SUN in the mountains as well as hiking/snowshoeing on mountain trails , mulled wine/hot chocolate and the holiday lights, that is nullified by the short days, cold and miserable climate in valleys (in Geneva winters tend to be somewhat wet and with a lot of grey overcast like in Vancoiuver where I was brought up). Nothing worse that waking late on a Sunday and lazing around, though I had tasks to do, then it is 3 PM and you have just under 2 hours before darkness. :( I quite like this region but can see myself retiring to warmer and more importantly latitudes with less contrast in daylight lengths per season.
 
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I like the winter, but I do not like the weather we're having right now in California: the persistent high pressure ridge in the eastern Pacific ensuring every day is freezing cold, bone dry, and without wind so the air quality stays poor all day. Going a month without rainfall when you only have about a five-month window where rain falls at all is not good. Hopefully this weather pattern shifts by the end of the year.
 
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