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I thought it - the debate - excellent; Bertrand Russell made clear that he had no intention of arguing for the atheist position (even though he, himself, may well have been considered an atheist) as he believed that one cannot argue for the non-existence of God, whereas he considered that reasonable doubt is a more credible intellectual position.

And I love the fact that the BBC thought that this sort of debate - no insults for either of the individuals who held each respective intellectual position, and no denigration or public punishment either - was the sort of debate that it should facilitate by providing the public space for the debate to take place.

Nowadays a debate of this kind would look like a WWE Royal Ramble...
 
You wouldn't fight off an anaconda; you'd be squeezed, crushed, and then consumed.[/QUOTE]



Ouch! The most gruesome death for many animals , imagine you are paralyzed and being pushed slowly into the stomach of a monster?
 
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Nowadays a debate of this kind would look like a WWE Royal Ramble...

I don't know how we come back from commercial television's reliance on lowest common denominator entertainment. Maybe not possible. It's one of the arguments for continuing to support (and publicly fund) public broadcasting. How to reach commercial TV's sponsors and producers though, and ask them please can't you elevate the tone here a little? Not sure. There's an acceptance now of highly partisan and sometimes pretty vicious "debate" as a sort of action-adventure option, and it's apparently pretty hard to dismiss it as "not good enough" so long as it garners eyeballs and hauls in ad revenue.
 
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Someone I've found to be irritating manages around 300-400 negative posts per week in PRSI. Having read earlier posts of theirs, I've gathered they're past the age of 60 given the condition of their hands. Anything they've commented on doesn't even affect them as they live a half world away. Fuddy duddies.
 
This evening a 50+ years old man was struggling to push his car in the middle of the road, feeling sorry for him i have decided to help and we pushed the car on the left side of the road for the safety of him and others. I can feel my back was hurting but the guy just walked away without saying one single word or thank you , amazing.
 
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This evening a 50+ years old man was struggling to push his car in the middle of the road, feeling sorry for him i have decided to help and we pushed the car on the left side of the road for the safety of him and others. I can feel my back was hurting but the guy just walked away without saying one single word or thank you , amazing.

Did it make you feel better to help another human being? If so, it's a positive outcome, don't sweat someone forgetting some social protocols in what was probably a very ****** day for them ... :)
 
This evening a 50+ years old man was struggling to push his car in the middle of the road, feeling sorry for him i have decided to help and we pushed the car on the left side of the road for the safety of him and others. I can feel my back was hurting but the guy just walked away without saying one single word or thank you , amazing.


Did it make you feel better to help another human being? If so, it's a positive outcome, don't sweat someone forgetting some social protocols in what was probably a very ****** day for them ... :)

Of course it did, but if i was in his shoe i would warmly appreciate the person's help.

Agree. But I suppose not everyone has the same level of decency.

Nearly twenty years ago, my mother's favourite cousin (a really lovely man) helped start a stalled car - by pushing it - and suffered a fatal cardiac arrest.

Sometimes, as @D.T. has posted out, they could be too stressed to think of thanking you.

Winter is coming. That’s on my mind. Had to wear a coat to work this morning.

It's drizzled every morning for the past few days. Short and very light. The days are beginning to slowly shorten, too.

Absolutely.

Cooler days, shorter days, darker days - and, since August started, wetter days; actually, it has rained every day sane August started.

I've been in warm woollen pullovers since this month began.

Someone I've found to be irritating manages around 300-400 negative posts per week in PRSI. Having read earlier posts of theirs, I've gathered they're past the age of 60 given the condition of their hands. Anything they've commented on doesn't even affect them as they live a half world away. Fuddy duddies.

300-400 posts a week in PRSI? Crikey.

What energy. What passion. What a challenge to plough through.

Seriously, why waste your time annoying yourself reading such persistent negativity?
 
Some people simply don't have those basic manners. There are relatives on my father's side, for example, that I rarely speak to because they're much like that man. It isn't so much they're animals, but that they're in their own little world and presume basic manners like that don't exist. That and they're insufferable twits.
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300-400 posts a week in PRSI? Crikey.

What energy. What passion. What a challenge to plough through.

Seriously, why waste your time annoying yourself reading such persistent negativity?
Who said anything about reading them? Each post return page shows roughly 20-22 posts, multiple that by 7 days worth of posts in a few sets and do the math. If I'd read all this person's posts, I'd have thought the world was ending tomorrow.

They've had a dozen or so posts removed in the last few days. Fancy that. Had most had that many removed they'd be off at Coventry stuffing themselves with food, so to speak. Possibly stuff themselves off and make the world a better place. I'd even provide the sawdust sandwiches.
 
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Someone I've found to be irritating manages around 300-400 negative posts per week in PRSI. Having read earlier posts of theirs, I've gathered they're past the age of 60 given the condition of their hands. Anything they've commented on doesn't even affect them as they live a half world away. Fuddy duddies.

300 posts a week? Wow! And here I am pondering if I am spending too much time on PRSI (answer = yes).
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Winter is coming. That’s on my mind. Had to wear a coat to work this morning.

It's going to be 101F (38C) here... I don't see no winter :)
 
300 posts a week? Wow! And here I am pondering if I am spending too much time on PRSI (answer = yes).
I don't want to post the user's name and have another vacation. I did do some digging to see what's up with them at which point I had to laugh because they evaded certain questions and it made a lot of sense at that point. It would be like me sticking my nose into internal matters concerning the Vatican.
 
I don't want to post the user's name and have another vacation. I did do some digging to see what's up with them at which point I had to laugh because they evaded certain questions and it made a lot of sense at that point.

Yeah, no need to say the user's name (as long as it's not me, and since I am not 60+... :) ).

It would be like me sticking my nose into internal matters concerning the Vatican.

Well, you want to live, right? ;)
[doublepost=1566304531][/doublepost]On an unrelated note, I totally underestimated the latest book purchase. I eyed a book on the US-Soviet relations during the détente years published by the Department of State. It goes for about $80 new and I was able to find it used and in incredibly good shape for $8. It goes for about $15/$20 used now on Amazon, so when I saw it at $8 I could not say no.

I knew that the book was about 1000pages. However, I had no idea that it was a massive, 7.5lbs book with the strongest rigid cover in the history of humanity, probably forged at Mount Doom itself. The book is not really aerodynamic but it can certainly work as an attack blunt weapon as it could work wonders as a shield.

What interested me in the book is that it's a majestic Department of State production which is 99% primary sources from both sides. This is truly unique as it permits the researcher and reader to see how the two governments viewed, reported, and evaluated the same events, the same meetings, and the same phone calls. This should provide an extra layer in understanding the challenges that faced diplomats and leaders alike.
 
I knew that the book was about 1000pages. However, I had no idea that it was a massive, 7.5lbs book with the strongest rigid cover in the history of humanity, probably forged at Mount Doom itself. The book is not really aerodynamic but it can certainly work as an attack blunt weapon as it could work wonders as a shield.
I have Shirer's famous book in hardcover. It's a weapon alright. It's an older printing thus thicker paper. If I had to guess without taking it down from a shelf in our library, it's probably edging 9 lb. I really ought to put it on a bottom shelf but because it rarely needs to get referenced, especially because I own the digital version, too, I don't see the need to do that. It's a safety hazard if it falls on you during and earthquake.
 
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I have Shirer's famous book in hardcover. It's a weapon alright. It's an older printing thus thicker paper. If I had to guess without taking it down from a shelf in our library, it's probably edging 9 lb.

Ah yes! That book is not small and light even as a paperback.
I am pretty sure that we can build a small arsenal of heavy, sturdy books that would make us somewhat invincible.
 
Yeah, no need to say the user's name (as long as it's not me, and since I am not 60+... :) ).



Well, you want to live, right? ;)
[doublepost=1566304531][/doublepost]On an unrelated note, I totally underestimated the latest book purchase. I eyed a book on the US-Soviet relations during the détente years published by the Department of State. It goes for about $80 new and I was able to find it used and in incredibly good shape for $8. It goes for about $15/$20 used now on Amazon, so when I saw it at $8 I could not say no.

I knew that the book was about 1000pages. However, I had no idea that it was a massive, 7.5lbs book with the strongest rigid cover in the history of humanity, probably forged at Mount Doom itself. The book is not really aerodynamic but it can certainly work as an attack blunt weapon as it could work wonders as a shield.

What interested me in the book is that it's a majestic Department of State production which is 99% primary sources from both sides. This is truly unique as it permits the researcher and reader to see how the two governments viewed, reported, and evaluated the same events, the same meetings, and the same phone calls. This should provide an extra layer in understanding the challenges that faced diplomats and leaders alike.

A tome of that sort, packed with primary sources must be an absolute treasure trove, but one used mainly for reference, I'd imagine.

Enjoy.
 
Ah yes! That book is not small and light even as a paperback.
I am pretty sure that we can build a small arsenal of heavy, sturdy books that would make us somewhat invincible.
In theory, you could use any book past 3-4 lb to bash someone's skull in, particularly near the temple or base where the bone easily fragments from the rest, and may injure brain tissue leading to massive hemorrhaging.
 
I have Shirer's famous book in hardcover. It's a weapon alright. It's an older printing thus thicker paper. If I had to guess without taking it down from a shelf in our library, it's probably edging 9 lb. I really ought to put it on a bottom shelf but because it rarely needs to get referenced, especially because I own the digital version, too, I don't see the need to do that. It's a safety hazard if it falls on you during and earthquake.

My copy is paperback, (and battered and worn and dog-eared); actually, I'd prefer that work in hardback, as the print is tight and dense in the paper-back.
 
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