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What's the chance of an SSD in the next MBP's?

mgpg89

mgpg89

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I've been hearing people talk about these SSD's for a while now and I was wondering if there's a good chance they'll be in the next MBP's? (as a BTO option then)
And if so, what capacity do you reckon?

And what about them?
Are they really the way forward?
If I'm not concerned about storage capacity, but more about read/write speed... are SSD's really MUCH faster than a 7,200rpm traditional HD?


thanks in advance
 
I honestly don't see the point of having a SSD in the pro line. Usually the pro users use the Pros for music and video editing, or image/graphics editing. People who do that need as much space as they can get...and currently SSD drives don't provide enough space for those users.
 
I don't think it's much. If they do, it'd be a very costly option. I think at this point most likely SSD to be offered would be Intel's 80GB, which is ~$600. Meaning Apple would likely charge $800+ for the upgrade.
 
Aranince said:
I honestly don't see the point of having a SSD in the pro line. Usually the pro users use the Pros for music and video editing, or image/graphics editing. People who do that need as much space as they can get...and currently SSD drives don't provide enough space for those users.
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Agreed.

I use mine for photography, backing up RAW files on the go. My current flash card is 32GB! At the moment I'm struggling with 320Gb and the OP is talking about having tiny SSD in the MBP? NO... I don't think other in my field would want more expansive machines with smaller drives, having SSD in them will inflate the price too!! It's better to have them as a BTO option for users who'd like them.



Personally, I'd like Apple to offer BTO's for Dual HD's. And make a the MBA's external SuperDrive compatible with MBP's. I don't see why they can't do it, it'll make the SuperDrive units fly off the shelves.
 
Aranince said:
I honestly don't see the point of having a SSD in the pro line. Usually the pro users use the Pros for music and video editing, or image/graphics editing. People who do that need as much space as they can get...and currently SSD drives don't provide enough space for those users.
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You are wrong.
Pro use external drives to process their audio/video.
Dedicated system drive, dedicated data drive.
Internal drives in laptops never have the space or performance required.
 
UltraNEO* said:
Agreed.

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Personally, I'd like Apple to offer BTO's for Dual HD's. And make a the MBA's external SuperDrive compatible with MBP's. I don't see why they can't do it, it'll make the SuperDrive units fly off the shelves.
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I like the dual drive suggestion! Unfortunately, Apple's obsessive quest for limited choices in the name of simplicity is certain to make this unlikely. :(
 
It'll be nice to have high speed express card PCI-E SSD drives. (currently most, if not all of them are usb 2 speed)

Users who wants to install SSD can already do it now, as they make high speed SSD 2.5" drives.

You can take out your optical drive for a second harddrive mod.
 
Aranince said:
I honestly don't see the point of having a SSD in the pro line. Usually the pro users use the Pros for music and video editing, or image/graphics editing. People who do that need as much space as they can get...and currently SSD drives don't provide enough space for those users.
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Being cynical: making hard drives smaller (while touting the battery life extension and robustness) shifts perception away from them being desktop replacements and back to being desktop accompaniments. Hence more $$$$ for :apple:. Having said this, having used solely a PB for a long time using a large screen iMac is a sheer delight.
 
Consultant said:
It'll be nice to have high speed express card PCI-E SSD drives. (currently most, if not all of them are usb 2 speed)

Users who wants to install SSD can already do it now, as they make high speed SSD 2.5" drives.

You can take out your optical drive for a second harddrive mod.
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I know this.. but there's a limitation. Those high spec 2.5" drives are using the newer, faster SATA bus. I don't know have you thought about it, but if you remove the optical drive from a Mb/MBP you'll still be stuck with a E-IDE bus, that means we're limited to a maximum of 250GB's. So the maximum space possible at the current spec would be less than 750GB using both media bays.

It'll be better if Apple installed an additional SATA bus on the logic board, or replace the optical drive data bus with one that's SATA and IDE compatible, it'll give users more options.
 
Aranince said:
I honestly don't see the point of having a SSD in the pro line. Usually the pro users use the Pros for music and video editing, or image/graphics editing. People who do that need as much space as they can get...and currently SSD drives don't provide enough space for those users.
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But, seeing as they're pros, they're going to want the fastest speeds as well, so why wouldn't they want a super-fast drive that can't crash and is the same size as what came in a new MBP a year ago?
 
UltraNEO* said:
I know this.. but there's a limitation. Those high spec 2.5" drives are using the newer, faster SATA bus. I don't know have you thought about it, but if you remove the optical drive from a Mb/MBP you'll still be stuck with a E-IDE bus, that means we're limited to a maximum of 250GB's. So the maximum space possible at the current spec would be less than 750GB using both media bays.

It'll be better if Apple installed an additional SATA bus on the logic board, or replace the optical drive data bus with one that's SATA and IDE compatible, it'll give users more options.
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Use your express 3/4 slot
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_sata_express34.html

But, apple is overdue for esata ports on their products. Probably reluctant because FW is their standard.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
But, seeing as they're pros, they're going to want the fastest speeds as well, so why wouldn't they want a super-fast drive that can't crash and is the same size as what came in a new MBP a year ago?
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Large SSD's will cost lots of money! If your a Pro who can afford it, you go right ahead. Samsung has a 256Gb version that'll fit in any 2.5" bay... I won't be thinking about them till they drop the price hell of lot more!

 
:confused:
if you have something else plugged in you can't. But I guess that's kinda obvious.
Seems like a waste of an express slot considering USB CF readers are a dime a dozen.
Or that my Dell monitor I use w/ my MBP has a CF reader integrated.

You could always use your FW800 for a ext drive too.
 
N.J. said:
:confused:
if you have something else plugged in you can't. But I guess that's kinda obvious.
Seems like a waste of an express slot considering USB CF readers are a dime a dozen.
Or that my Dell monitor I use w/ my MBP has a CF reader integrated.

You could always use your FW800 for a ext drive too.
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Maybe they're costly where your from but they're dirty cheap here in Japan. I can leave it in the slot and forget about it. Pack and carrying MBP stored in a Pelican case, leaving the rest of the space for photography equipment. I dunno about you, but I'd sooner carry more glass than a HD.
 
Can someone tell me how much of an improvement i will notice in speed?
SSD vs traditional 7,2k rpm HD
 
rather then having dual drives in the new MBP they should just update to FW 1600 and sell 1600 external drives. with a half TB plus 200GB on you're MBP you shouldn't need too much more space for photos.

I am curently a video editor with a 150GB drive plus a 250gig external. Now I haven't been doing much work in HD but still I manage fine with that. when I get a new MBP (IF THEY EVER COME OUT) I'll probably upgrade to either a 500gig or 1TB external so I can take those hefty HD projects on.
 
I don't think it's likely but if they did it would be mucho $$$. I think a fully loaded MBP is expensive enough now!!
 
I really think it will have it....as an option, which i think is actually a good choice.
 
I don't see the problem of the BTO option, but I doubt many will want it. They're still not cost-effective, especially when people want to store tons of music and video.
 
mgpg89 said:
Can someone tell me how much of an improvement i will notice in speed?
SSD vs traditional 7,2k rpm HD
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It's faster and more reliable. Love it.

Too bad I don't have $3000 to spend on a SSD and I will only buy SLC.
 
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