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What's the deal with Instant On?
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Primary example about what's wrong with our culture. So quick to sue over something so silly.
Cool, so because a MacBook Air has much the same 'instant on' as the previous generation or two of Mac laptops, it's not instant on any more and can't be touted as a feature.
But hey, try this: go dig out your MacBooks and Macbook Pros, and from fully shut down, compare the boot up time against a MBA..... Now THAT is what I call instant on, even if it's an 11 second instant!
....and while I'm typing this, the MacBook is still booting......
But hey, try this: go dig out your MacBooks and Macbook Pros, and from fully shut down, compare the boot up time against a MBA..... Now THAT is what I call instant on, even if it's an 11 second instant!
....and while I'm typing this, the MacBook is still booting......
I think a lot of people confuse "turning on the machine and getting to the desktop" with "it was already on, it's in sleep mode".
Anyway, regarding the latter. I have a 2005 Powerbook PPC.
When I put it in sleep mode while it's on battery. And the next day I open up the screen again, it takes 1,9 seconds, and I can move the mouse and the apps update. Another second, and it's all smooth again.
I have always been impressed with the powerbook and 10.4
I expect SSD mac book (air or pro) to at least have that performance.
My father has a macbook pro 15" from 2009 I think (or 2010) and it takes a few seconds from sleep to properly wake up and become usable again.
If it was just a few minutes ago, it's basically 'instant' (well, a second).
Wifi comes back really fast - faster than the powerbook.
And apps update really fast too (to point they're realistically usable).
On both devices, however you spin it, within seconds you can continue whatever you're doing, open new apps, etc - all without lag.
It's scary and strange to read that multiple people here talk about 3+ seconds before usable - on SSD and modern machines.
Anyway, regarding the latter. I have a 2005 Powerbook PPC.
When I put it in sleep mode while it's on battery. And the next day I open up the screen again, it takes 1,9 seconds, and I can move the mouse and the apps update. Another second, and it's all smooth again.
I have always been impressed with the powerbook and 10.4
I expect SSD mac book (air or pro) to at least have that performance.
My father has a macbook pro 15" from 2009 I think (or 2010) and it takes a few seconds from sleep to properly wake up and become usable again.
If it was just a few minutes ago, it's basically 'instant' (well, a second).
Wifi comes back really fast - faster than the powerbook.
And apps update really fast too (to point they're realistically usable).
On both devices, however you spin it, within seconds you can continue whatever you're doing, open new apps, etc - all without lag.
It's scary and strange to read that multiple people here talk about 3+ seconds before usable - on SSD and modern machines.
I was really hoping instant on would be similar to how the iPhone works.
This instant on is just SLIGHTLY faster than 2008 macbook pro.
This instant on is just SLIGHTLY faster than 2008 macbook pro.
Haha I totally agree. After setting up Parallels and bootcamp my 2011 MacBook Air takes about five seconds... That is lightning fast, far better than the two to three minutes it used to take on my HP. And my battery is actually useful, I would take my HP and get maybe an hour and a half battery life.
EXACTLY. I've used PC since the mid to late 90s when I was a kid. My most recent Dell Latitude D830 took a good 10-20 seconds to turn on when opening the lid. THEN it took another few minutes for the thing to be usable so I could open programs and do anything (hard drive furiously chugging).
My 2011 13' Macbook Air is instant on to me. I open the lid, and by the time my hands hit the keys, I can type my password - which is about 1-2 seconds.
But hey, it's people like you (original thread poster) that keep driving technology better and better. Keep complaining and they'll make it faster.Meanwhile, us old buggers (am I old at 26?) are constantly amazed every time we open our Macbooks.
That said - my co-worker bought an Asus Ultrabook and it still takes him 6+ seconds to do anything once the laptop lid is opened. Seems like an eternity from my Macbook Air.
I have a strong feeling that Apple has forced deep sleep (forced integration with "30 days Standby?"), or some kind of hybrid between "quick" and "deep" sleep modes we had on HDD MBs/MBPs.
With MBPs, HDDs were so slow - your "quick sleep" was purely RAM based.
Now that SSDs so much faster, Apple would your sleep be deep by default.
Problem is SSDs still orders of magnitude slower than RAM (doubly so, given how cheap Apple with SSDs)
That's why it is NOT as instantaneous as MBP
P.S. I can only wonder how worse will it get, when they finally allow me to have 8GB in MBA.
(twice as much stuff to retrieve from SSD at wake up)
With MBPs, HDDs were so slow - your "quick sleep" was purely RAM based.
Now that SSDs so much faster, Apple would your sleep be deep by default.
Problem is SSDs still orders of magnitude slower than RAM (doubly so, given how cheap Apple with SSDs)
That's why it is NOT as instantaneous as MBP
P.S. I can only wonder how worse will it get, when they finally allow me to have 8GB in MBA.
(twice as much stuff to retrieve from SSD at wake up)
My complaint is that once I open the lid, screen turns on for 3 seconds. It mouse is frozen. Then screen turns off, hit space bar wait 4 seconds then screen is back on, wait 3 seconds and mouse works again. It did this on my 2011 MBP and now on my 2011 MBA. Sucks.
"instant" is qualitative, and not quantitative.
something for us all to remember. There are no guarantees anywhere that "your computer will wake in < .5 seconds" or the like.
apple just claims "instant on"
it usually takes mine about 1-2 seconds and I'm pretty content.
If your machine is taking 5+ seconds, than something seems wrong. i would look more into it (other running things? I honestly dont know)
Also. There's a difference between "sleep" and "Deep Sleep". I believe the advertised feature is instant on from sleep.
if you've let your computer go into deep sleep, expect it to take a big longer, though I've still never hit 5+ seconds).
something for us all to remember. There are no guarantees anywhere that "your computer will wake in < .5 seconds" or the like.
apple just claims "instant on"
it usually takes mine about 1-2 seconds and I'm pretty content.
If your machine is taking 5+ seconds, than something seems wrong. i would look more into it (other running things? I honestly dont know)
Also. There's a difference between "sleep" and "Deep Sleep". I believe the advertised feature is instant on from sleep.
if you've let your computer go into deep sleep, expect it to take a big longer, though I've still never hit 5+ seconds).
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Consider yourself lucky. I pulled my MBA out of my bag earlier today, it was somewhere between 9 and 11 seconds for it to resume. I have a feeling it's proportionate to the number of apps running and how much RAM they use.
I'm sure it was coming out of a "deep" sleep, but it's obnoxious when you think about it compared to a 2006 MBP that takes < 2 seconds.