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What's the fastest, stablest and most usable OS X release since Snow Leopard?

  • Mountain Lion

  • Mavericks

  • Yosemite

  • El Capitan

  • Sierra


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You can turn off Siri so I would go with Sierra as it still receives security updates.
 
You can turn off Siri so I would go with Sierra as it still receives security updates.
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I have Siri, never had it on. It's like she isn't there.
The issue is that the toggle really doesn't do anything as they'll listen if the want.

To me it's a fake switch/toggle. I don't trust Apple.

If you look into it, programmers will tell you that it's still running, even with it toggled off, which means it's not really off.

Here is the files to rid siri for real.

https://github.com/rtrouton/profiles/tree/master/DisableSiri

For anyone interested on really ridding the intrusive siri, there's your answer. :)
 
Guess what, they can listen to you even with siri disabled
Fair enough and true, but taking measures to minimize the intrusiveness is better than nothing.

If you think you have any privacy with Apple, that is an illusion. Same can be said for M$.
 
The issue is that the toggle really doesn't do anything as they'll listen if the want.

To me it's a fake switch/toggle. I don't trust Apple.

If you look into it, programmers will tell you that it's still running, even with it toggled off, which means it's not really off.

Here is the files to rid siri for real.

https://github.com/rtrouton/profiles/tree/master/DisableSiri

For anyone interested on really ridding the intrusive siri, there's your answer. :)
These profiles do exactly the same thing as manually turning off Siri. Configuration profiles are just a tool to be able to automate the process of setting preferences on computers as one would do, for example, if one were supporting a classroom full of Macs.
 
These profiles do exactly the same thing as manually turning off Siri. Configuration profiles are just a tool to be able to automate the process of setting preferences on computers.
Negative ghost rider, even with the toggle off there remains background running processes... Says the coder(s) that contributed to making the scripts.

If it was that easy, there wouldn't be the need for it...
 
Negative ghost rider, even with the toggle off there remains background running processes... Says the coder(s) that contributed to making the scripts.

If it was that easy, there wouldn't be the need for it...
Nonsense. The profiles were created with this tool, which reads preferences and converts them to configuration profiles: https://github.com/timsutton/mcxToProfile
Turning off Siri in the system preference writes this:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>Assistant Enabled</key>
    <false/>
</dict>
</plist>
Rich's profile to disable Siri is doing exactly the same thing.
 
Nonsense. The profiles were created with this tool, which reads preferences and converts them to configuration profiles: https://github.com/timsutton/mcxToProfile
Turning off Siri in the system preference writes this:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>Assistant Enabled</key>
    <false/>
</dict>
</plist>
Rich's profile to disable Siri is doing exactly the same thing.
You've clearly missed what I said earlier.

It's OK, trust your toggle and I'll let you discover what you're missing.
 
You've clearly missed what I said earlier.

It's OK, trust your toggle and I'll let you discover what you're missing.
I didn't miss anything. Configuration profiles only write preferences and cannot do anything but that. What processes do you think you see getting stopped when these profiles are installed as compared to turning off the preference?
 
I didn't miss anything. Configuration profiles only write preferences and cannot do anything but that. What processes do you think you see getting stopped when these profiles are installed as compared to turning off the preference?
There is a running process that is not named siri that still exists after turning it off, which is the culprit. It took the guys awhile to figure it out due to the naming scheme, therefore it was easily over looked.

At any rate, I'm all set with sierra with siri gone which makes be feel more comfortable over a toggle that I don't trust.

To each his own. Cheers.
 
The oldest system that's still somewhat supported (at least in terms of internet browsing) is Mavericks, at least, as of late 2018. Having said that though, on newer computers, I think you'd want at least El Capitan. From my testing, Yosemite and newer seem to dislike HDDs, and they are much slower than the same hardware than Mavericks (with an HDD). I've only used Sierra on two computers (both with SSDs), so I don't know much about it, but I do know High Sierra is much worse than El Capitan on the same hardware with an HDD and low RAM. Actually, even in its final revision (10.13.6), High Sierra still seems to be a buggy mess on the Mac Pro and iMac Pro I've used them on.
 
I am sure the worst thing that can happen is running an OS that´s no longer supported by security updates.

Sierra runs really fast and smooth on 15" MBPs 2011 or 2012, I am always very sceptic about newer OS, but the last version of Sierra did surprise me in the good sense of the meaning "surprise". The MBPs of 2011 and 2012 are much faster than with El Capitan before. (Since 7 years I use nothing but SSDs.)

I hate Siri as well as you and turned it off on all my apple products: My MBPs, my iP SE, my iPadPro ("old" one, 9,7") .
I am also a friend of privacy, not even in one single "social network" .

But I feel good with Sierra.
 
Mavericks. It’s also the last skeuomorphic OS which IMO looks and feels way more professional and thought out than whatever you call that which came after.
 
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No idea. I'm still using Snow Leopard and Debian 9. Up to 10.6, I would say MacOS 8.6 was my favorite, before all the multi-user bloat of OS 9, and more so with OS X. The entire tech industry has the same business model...make things more complex or just different, and degrade performance especially. That way people are forced to upgrade every 6 months to a year. Personally, I want congress to pass some extortion tax for the major tech companies. I would rather pay Apple and Microsoft every year in taxes, just to get them to stop playing this maddening upgrade update game.
 
As simple as that.

I have a 2008 MacBook (Core 2 Duo, SSD, 4 GB of RAM) running El Capitan and a 2009 iMac (Core i5, SSD, 12 GB of RAM) running Yosemite. Both of them present bugs, glitches and other stuff that have little to do with what we all sure agree is the gold standard for stability, usability and speed—OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard.

I want to downgrade, however, I'm not quite sure which OS X release is the best alternative.

I'd go straight to Snow Leopard if it wasn't because it doesn't support iCloud. On the other hand, I think there needs to be an equilibrium in terms of oldness-stability. After all, some apps are kind of picky when it comes to the OS X versions they support.

What's your choice?

I agree with THIS USER HANDS DOWN. Snow Leopard was SEAMLESS (I think the last MAC OS that was that stable was OS 9). Unfortunately Tim Cook seems more interested in MONEY. New EMOJIS. EEEWWW YAY. I remember a graphic design teacher that would get mad if you DID NOT HAVE A BORING GREY DESKTOP for COLOR CORRECTION. There was no other background that was commendable. I'm on Mavericks. I'm here because I want to cut back on my systems on my FIX DISKS and I think I want Mavericks, El Capitan, Sierra, and High Sierra. I'd like to have less installers than that. So if anyone can tell my FLAGSHIP OS releases and THIS GUY IS RIGHT. There are ones that are JUST STABLE. I'm not sure Tim Cook can provide that.
[doublepost=1566611933][/doublepost]MAVERICKS is the last SNOW LEOPARD LIKE SYSTEM that just works. It has a few more bugs than snow leopard. I took a 2TB SSD and a 1TB SSD. I partitioned the 2TB into two 1TB drives in disk utility and than software raided the 1TB partition to the 1TB drive and installed Mavericks. I installed High Sierra on my remaining 1TB parition because it won't install on Apple's Software RAID. However, Mac Pro's have two SSD's inside them. Which more than likely means Tim Cook moved the new computers to an INTERNAL HARDWARE RAID, hence the lack of support for Steve Jobs software RAIDS that everyone LOVED. We will now have to PAY for a non upgradable HARDWARE RAID. How SWEET IS THAT?
 
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