In the never ending saga to get my new Apple II Plus to do absolutely anything, I've discovered my earlier concerns with my langauge card are not my real issue. I have learned so much about this machine in the last month. I now know that my Plus does not need a langauge card to use the Disk II drive and that the "language card" it came with was really just a ram card. I ordered and received a new official apple langauge card (which I believe works fine in a II plus?) and I no longer get lines across the screen when I turn it on, therefore I suspect it works. However, I am now convinced the Disk II Drive is my problem. When I try to load any disk with or without my new language card, I get a same problem. Most disks give me the same kind of error where it says something like "6853 F=C X=0 Y=0..." Etc. one disk gives me just the single word "ERR" at the top left and another fills the entire screen with the letters "@" and "A" in vertical columns! Each disk sounds like its loading in the drive although very loudly. (Maybe that's normal, I have no experience with 5 1/4 inch drives. Way louder than a 3.5 anyway). Then after less than a minute, I get some kind of error. I have tried taking out some and all of my expansion cards and have reseated the ram chips on my language card. I must admit that when I first got it, I rushed to get it working with little knowledge as to why I was doing and inserted a disk while the system was running. I have read somewhere that this is bad practice. However, surely doing this once wouldn't have totally wrecked the drive? I mean if it does, then half of all Apple II owners must have broken theirs back in the day! Is this indeed an issue with my DISK II Drive?