What's your opinion on the MBA releasing in 2016.

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by thnzus, Jun 11, 2015.

  1. thnzus macrumors newbie

    Jun 11, 2015
    Well, I'm going to college this fall, so I have to get a new laptop soon.
    I would really like to get a MBA, but wouldn't mind waiting for 6 months if the 2016 MBA is going to be a new design and/or comes with a retina display.
    I already have a windows laptop with pretty good specs, so I'm only planning on getting a MBA because it's just easier to carry around and taking to classes.
    I'm not sure whether I should get a MBA now or get a notebook like the HP stream 13 that costs under 300 and wait for the 2016 MBA, so I would really like to get your opinion on this :)
  2. Mac-lover3 macrumors 6502


    Dec 2, 2014
    I'm afraid the 2016 version of it may never going to exist..
    The MacBook replaced it actually, so it will probably be a very small update or they just kill it.
    The MacBook Air are really great computers (apart from the screen).
  3. theluggage macrumors 68040

    Jul 29, 2011
    Nobody knows - but my guess would be that the 11" Air will disappear and the 13" be obsoleted by the next generation of the MacBook Pro 13 possibly sporting an Air-like tapered design.
  4. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

    T'hain Esh Kelch

    Aug 5, 2001
    I agree with the above. If you want an MBA, you might as well get it now.
  5. Boyd01 macrumors 68040


    Feb 21, 2012
    New Jersey Pine Barrens
    My opinion is that the predictions on this forum are not very reliable. :D If you don't need a new computer yet, don't buy one. When you actually need it, buy whatever best meets your needs. But since you asked for opinions, mine is that you probably won't get a new design or retina display. The current MBA is already a great machine, I will be using my 2013 i7/8gb/512gb for a few more years.
  6. motrek macrumors 68020

    Sep 14, 2012
    The classic MBP has been around for a long time, and is even still around after several years of theoretically being obsoleted by the 13" rMBP.

    There's no reason to expect that the MBA will just vanish within a year of the rMB being released. I mean, maybe. But it could also stick around for years just like the cMBP.
  7. newellj macrumors 603

    Oct 15, 2014
    Boston, MA, US
    I don't know whether the MBA will vanish (no one here does). Logic favors the theory above about the 11" disappearing and the 13" going into a status like the cMBP until Apple can bring the price on the rMB down and/or introduce a 14" screen on a scaled-up rMB.

    The post about buy it when you need it is right on. Honestly, any of the Apple laptops provide more than enough power for almost everything that almost everyone here needs, and the few for whom that's not true don't need to post questions like this. ;)

    If you agree with the logic that says that the MBA is basically at the end of its development life cycle, then the most you'd see would be very modest updates that wouldn't affect performance much.

    I will point out that, very notably IMHO, the MBA line did NOT get the new trackpad that the rMBP line and the rMB got. Since it's clear that Apple intends to get developers to find uses for the new trackpad, the fact that Apple didn't include it in the early 2015 update says a lot to me about how Apple views the future of the MBA.
  8. bap3221 macrumors member

    Jun 13, 2012
    Yea I really think that the Macbook is just a replacement for MBA. Its thin like the MBA but has a retina display. I don’t see why they would upgrade the MBA to be the same just different sizes.

    Im happy with more ports and better battery life on my MBA 13” 2013. Im gonna wait for them to upgrade the battery, add more ports, and fix their butterfly mechanism on their keyboards (people say they jam when a something gets stuck inside).
  9. DavidLynch macrumors 6502a

    Apr 9, 2015
    I think if there is a 2016 model that keeps the same format it will keep the trend of a very modest update and possibly even another $50-100 price cut. I see Apple keeping the MBA around as their entry-level computer and I don't think they'll make any changes that would raise the cost.
  10. Meister Suspended


    Oct 10, 2013
    Apple will keep the Air around as a classic for the price point.
  11. motrek macrumors 68020

    Sep 14, 2012
    Processor supply issues might force Apple to update MBAs to newer Intel chips. Those updates might come with chipset updates that translate to e.g. the addition of USB-C ports.

    Otherwise I can't think of why anything else might be updated in the future, if Apple just wants to keep selling them for a while.
  12. newellj macrumors 603

    Oct 15, 2014
    Boston, MA, US
    I think you could be right about chip updates and port changes, but all basically just treading water to keep something in the lineup at a sub-$1K price point. That is obviously just one person's guess.
  13. redheeler macrumors 603


    Oct 17, 2014
    They have managed keep an Ivy Bridge-based non-Retina MBP around all this time without updating the CPU, so I wouldn't count on it.
  14. Orr macrumors 6502


    Oct 8, 2013
    Apple can't give the Air a retina display. Then no one would buy their vastly overpriced and much less capable rMB. The Air had a great run, and will rapidly fade into the ether.
  15. Tork macrumors regular


    Oct 14, 2006
    Agree with those saying it'll stick around. It's just too powerful a brand name and too much an all-around fantastic computer with very little drawback for a vast majority of users. It's literally the laptop benchmark. The screen is the only thing ever cited as a negative in reviews. And if Apple can figure out a way to put a retina screen in it while preserving the battery life (tapering?) and price (which is perfect for such an awesome machine), they will, since they already sell like crazy and that's removing literally the last drawback. But most people probably don't care that much about the screen anyway. Apple doesn't care if it'll take sales away from the MB. Who would, if it means more sales of your hottest selling computer? I'm sure it's more profitable than the MB anyway. The current MB is just too limited at this point to be the only consumer-named laptop -- they need the Air right now. It'll get more powerful and USB-C will be enough in 4-5 years or so. No way they ax the Air until then, if they ever do. The MB sets Apple up nicely for the future, especially when a 14" with 2-3 USB-C ports and 12+ hour battery comes along, but that's when USB-C is a bona fide "thing," and when the little chipsets become a bit more powerful.

    Apple's got a confusing set of names with their lightest laptop not being the "Air," of course too. Maybe they'll eventually pull a switcheroo and rename it the Air, while the current Air becomes the MB. They've done something like that before when the low end 13" aluminum "Pro" became the "MacBook" before it became the "Pro" again -- i.e., the current non-retina MBP.
  16. Boyd01 macrumors 68040


    Feb 21, 2012
    New Jersey Pine Barrens
    Well I still love my MBA and am keeping it for awhile. But I just read this article in the Wall Street Journal. Interesting to see the change of opinion…



    Note - if you get a message saying you have to be a subscriber to read the article, paste this into a Google search

    wall street journal which macbook? choosing between stamina, speed
  17. newellj macrumors 603

    Oct 15, 2014
    Boston, MA, US

    I think the WSJ article is a pretty fair discussion of the tradeoffs right now among the rMBP, the MBA and the rMB. I don't think it's possible to say that the MBA is a benchmark, or as a recent video tries to suggest, the gold standard, in 2015, and it is pretty clear that Apple doesn't think so, either. It presents itself capably only because it's pushing so few pixels. Apple needs to clean up the performance issues that affect too many users with OS X with 10.11 or they may well see migration to Windows. Win 8.1 is fast, light and very stable, and Win 10 is going to give Windows a UI reset that will probably be very attractive to many users.
  18. willmac macrumors newbie

    Sep 6, 2008
  19. Boyd01 macrumors 68040


    Feb 21, 2012
    New Jersey Pine Barrens
    That certainly isn't my experience. I use my 2013 11" i7/8gb/512gb MBA most of the time with either a 1080x1920 or 1200x1920 monitor and sometimes run software like Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. It is a very fast little computer. Don't really have any OSX performance issues, but am still running 10.8, which was what my machine shipped with. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", and I don't see any must-have features in newer versions of OSX.
  20. jdechko macrumors 68040

    Jul 1, 2004
    Longstanding wisdom is to buy a computer if you need a computer. There's always something newer/faster/better/shinier coming just around the corner. The Air was just released in April, so it's fairly early in the release cycle. The back-to-school sales will start soon, so that's probably a good time to buy if you're set on purchasing.

    There aren't any desktop macs either. Would you say those are going away?
  21. Cheffy Dave macrumors 68030

    Cheffy Dave

    Feb 5, 2007
    Sunny Florida, on the Gulf Coast in Homosassa Fl
    It's rumored death is greatly exaggerated.This fall 11/13" Airs get Skyline,Retina Screens,but no Haptic Keyboards or Force Touch Trackpads
  22. placidity44 macrumors 6502


    May 20, 2015
    I don't know why they'd get rid of the MBA. Most tech reviewers have it as the best rated laptop for most people just cite a lower resolution display. For most people it's the best laptop they can buy. Also they have a lower cost of entry into the mac ecosystem. They're not going anywhere until apple can get more battery life out of the rMB and lower the cost of assembly, and add a little more power. I don't see the MBA going anywhere for a while. The rMB is an amazing feat of engineering and is gorgeous but I would've been more than happy if they added a retina display and force touch into the current chassis...maybe shave a little off. Don't see why they didn't just redesign the Airs a little bit instead of adding an entire new category.
  23. SusanK macrumors 68000

    Oct 9, 2012
  24. Mike MA macrumors 68000

    Mike MA

    Sep 21, 2012
    Not sure about that. They will kill the 'Air' label, that's for sure. Else it would habe been adopted by the new Macbook. But it could coexist with additional ports and some other features.
  25. sracer macrumors 604


    Apr 9, 2010
    in exile
    It is most likely, IMO, that the 13" MBA is going to disappear soon.

    They'll keep the 11" MBA for the "under $1000" segment, 12" rMB, and 13"rMBP.

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