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Whaty rumors do you think Apple will leak in fear of the Palm Pre's launch?
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Fear? FEAR? You gotta be kidding me. Every few months, some "iPhone-killer" comes out to only be another brick in the line of devices out there. Until someone replicates the App Store, iPod functionality (which does not mean "crappy MP3 player"), and the extreme integration (e-mail, iTunes, address book syncing), you can forget Apple taking a hit.
I see the Pre, Android based phones and iPhone eventually ruling the entire market. Each with a similar amount of market share, maybe one of them Windows'ing it, but all of them will at least be contenders.
The notion that either the iPhone or Pre has to take market share away from each other is a joke. If anything, these new generation "smart phones" will take market share away from current "regular" phones produced by LG, Samsung and Motorola.
The smart phone market is growing exponentially. There's plenty of room for iPhone, Blackberry, Pre, Symbian, Windows Mobile and Android-based phones among others.
The smart phone market is growing exponentially. There's plenty of room for iPhone, Blackberry, Pre, Symbian, Windows Mobile and Android-based phones among others.
Compare with Sprint's pricing? The cheapest Pre plan is $10 more expensive then the cheapest iPhone plan.
Huh, what? There's an Iphone plan that's only 69.99 that includes unlimited data/text/gps and 450 minutes? Not that i can remember. The cheapest iphone plan is the same amount without unlimited texting. It would be $89.99 for a compareable plan. For unlimited everything for the Iphone and the Pre its $149.99 for the Iphone and $99.99 for the Pre.
Not if you factor in unlimited messaging, which every pre plan includes.
iPhone = $30 unlimited data plan + 39.99/mo 450 anytime minute voice and no text messages = $69 + tax /mo
Pre = $30 unlimited data and unlimited messaging + 39.99 anytime minute voice plan = $69 + tax/mo
If you want unlimited messaging on the iPhone (currently) it will run you $20/mo more.. so a 450 minute plan for the iPhone 3G would run you $89.99/mo + tax.. over the course of a 2 yr contract, the iPhone 3G would cost $480 more than the Pre.
Imo, the Pre is the only "iPhone killer" that looks promising. Palm has to put their balls to the grindstone if they want to make everyone forget about iphone os 3.0 though.
The only thing i cant figure out is why Palm didnt put a landscape keyboard on the Pre...
The next iPhone revision will probably focus alot more on speed and stability, which will be awesome if they have the apps to show it off. I dont have an iPhone myself, but every time i borrow my friend's it feels really sluggish and inevitably crashes. They will really need some great apps though, the touch-screen appeal has already gotten that crowd, its time to wrangle in those who want something with a bit more processing power.
The only thing i cant figure out is why Palm didnt put a landscape keyboard on the Pre...
The next iPhone revision will probably focus alot more on speed and stability, which will be awesome if they have the apps to show it off. I dont have an iPhone myself, but every time i borrow my friend's it feels really sluggish and inevitably crashes. They will really need some great apps though, the touch-screen appeal has already gotten that crowd, its time to wrangle in those who want something with a bit more processing power.
Nothing to fear...everything is known about the Pre, it gets sold 2 days before the whole world knows about the new iPhone. Two days later, the new iPhone comes out...the Pre becomes old news.
This is a little like saying if HP releases a better muti-media PC will I give up my Macs.
Short answer, no.
Short answer, no.
What a silly question! 
Nobody is scared of anyone! Apple and Palm are mainly aiming at different markets - Palm for the business/serious user and Apple for kids/casual/entertainment use. Evidenced by their their choice of advertising media; Palm with NYT and Apple with the general user press.
Plenty of room for growth in both markets.
Nobody is scared of anyone! Apple and Palm are mainly aiming at different markets - Palm for the business/serious user and Apple for kids/casual/entertainment use. Evidenced by their their choice of advertising media; Palm with NYT and Apple with the general user press.
Plenty of room for growth in both markets.
What a silly question!
Nobody is scared of anyone! Apple and Palm are mainly aiming at different markets - Palm for the business/serious user and Apple for kids/casual/entertainment use. Evidenced by their their choice of advertising media; Palm with NYT and Apple with the general user press.
Plenty of room for growth in both markets.
Not entirely true IMO, everyone wants to sell more to any kind of customer. Apple is trying pretty hard to please everyone, it's just that businessmen probably don't need commercials or app stores, they're usually not even the ones buying their phones
Whether Apple decided it or not I recall the 2G was more for the usual BB customers, from what I had seen during 07 SummerI did several years ago (back on AT&T now). Sprint's voice quality is FAR superior to any GSM carrier out there. Now if they could only improve their coverage...
Eh, I didn't take text messages into consideration, so ok, the Pre is a bit cheaper per month.
I was going off the base advertised pricing (and I always thought the base voice plan was $29, not $39 for iPhone). And face it, many consumers don't pay attention to details or fine print. They'll see the $199* for the Pre and assume they get it for $199 out the door, which they won't unless they go to Best Buy. Those are the same people that will see the voice+data plan price between providers and not pay attention to who includes SMS and who doesn't (unless they have kids that send a gazillion text messages a month). Just like the tons of customers Sprint is counting on not sending in the mail-in rebate.
Another thing to consider is that AT&T and Verizon give discounts to just about everyone under the sun. Sprint and T-Mobile don't give them out as much. Most people in government, education, large companies, etc get AT&T or Verizon discounts. A lot of those places do not give Sprint discounts. I can, in all honestly, say that I don't personally know a single AT&T customer who pays full price for their monthly bill. EVERYONE I know has some sort of work or school discount with them.
I was going off the base advertised pricing (and I always thought the base voice plan was $29, not $39 for iPhone). And face it, many consumers don't pay attention to details or fine print. They'll see the $199* for the Pre and assume they get it for $199 out the door, which they won't unless they go to Best Buy. Those are the same people that will see the voice+data plan price between providers and not pay attention to who includes SMS and who doesn't (unless they have kids that send a gazillion text messages a month). Just like the tons of customers Sprint is counting on not sending in the mail-in rebate.
Another thing to consider is that AT&T and Verizon give discounts to just about everyone under the sun. Sprint and T-Mobile don't give them out as much. Most people in government, education, large companies, etc get AT&T or Verizon discounts. A lot of those places do not give Sprint discounts. I can, in all honestly, say that I don't personally know a single AT&T customer who pays full price for their monthly bill. EVERYONE I know has some sort of work or school discount with them.