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iPhone 6(S)/Plus When Apple stops crippling their iPhone’s.
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That behaviour hasn’t changed. Your iPhone will still throttle as/when the battery is degraded.
Users found out about it and no government was involved in any way shape or form in that process. So the claim is blatantly false at best.
Interesting that you get this so wrong after over 1500 posts here.
Yes it was. The case went to court in the US.
Also various European authorities have fined Apple.
You honestly think Apple will pay many millions just because of some users complaining?
I'm not sure I understand your point here.
The practice of throttling iPhones when the battery degrades to a certain point still exists.
Same tech is still around. So exactly what has YOUR government- the one you refer to - done to alter the situation? Please specify your country while at it.
If there is throttling, Apple changed it because in the past iPhones became unusuable, basically forcing people to upgrade. All the lawsuits and fines clearly have worked.
Now a super old iPhone 6S+ works great.
Also my iPad Pro has a battery health below 80% and I don’t notice any throttling. So not sure what throttling you are talking about. Surely was not what it used to be.
I like the first generation se and use it. And I will use it to the last. I don't like big screens, 4 inches is fine. Before that I used 4s for a very long time, I really feel sorry for and sympathize with people with +6-inch screens
I think you are confusing issues.
As technology advanced more quickly earlier in the smartphone lifecycle, software updates written for newer hardware ran comparatively worse on older hardware devices.
Your iPhone will still throttle the same way it always did, I believe from iOS 10 onwards. iPads don’t have the same throttling need due to having comparatively much larger batteries.
No it is not. I just even checked an even older iPhone, my iPhone 5s. That one also runs suprisngly well now.
Apple simply does not throttle phones as they did in the past.
In the past, you could buy an iPhone that runs well, but over time, it became unusable slow. Not today, even with an iPhone 5s.
Throttling didn’t impact the iPhone 5S, it was the 6S onwards IIRC.
Check under settings, battery, battery health. If peak performance capability has no message saying the device has experienced an unexpected shutdown then it is not throttled. If it does have that message then it’ll be throttling.
That is what Apple admitted. However people (including me) have observed iPhone's that were fast in the beginning slowing down to a crawl which forces you to buy a new iPhone.
Yes that's the impact of software updates designed for much more capable hardware working more poorly on lesser hardware. This is the issue that goes away over time once the technology plateaus and incremental improvements reduce over time.
You can see the same thing in the PC world where you had to upgrade hardware at a much faster rate to keep up with the demands of different versions of Windows where that is no longer the case in 2021 as Windows 10 works on relatively old hardware just fine.
I experienced this as well with my first Face ID phone (iPhone X), every time it scanned, I felt a brief pressure in the eyes. But after using it for a while it did stop completely, and I have never had it since, no matter how much I use it.
This is true, not only iPhones but iPads as well, personally seen iPhone 4, 4s iPad 2, iPad mini 1, iPad 3, iPad 4 all getting unusable over time
People with a iPhone 6s, 7 and onwards don't agree with you, longest software support in the game and longevity for their devices, this thread is pointless. 🤷♂️
iPhone 7 runs better than most android flagships, go use a android phone for a few years, then come back and tell us apple is crippling their devices. 😂
Apple's good but I reckon even they can't perform miracles. I still have some of the early Nexus and Galaxy S phones and tablets and those fared worse than iPhones and iPads.
Older chipsets are just much slower compared to A8X/A9 and newer. Think Pentium II - IV. Meanwhile, I believe A9 is comparable to Sandy Bridge.
I remember I used to replace the PC entirely when upgrading from Windows 95 to 98 to XP to 7. Nehalem and newer builds though? Those lasted us ~10 years with SSD upgrades.
As has been mentioned, tech was moving quickly in the early days of smartphones and tablets. Now, they've mostly matured. I honestly don't notice a performance difference between A12, A13 and A14 devices. Even my 3+ year old A10X-based iPad Pros are performing very well.
Heck, even the A8X-based iPad Air 2 is quite serviceable and that device was released several years before #batterygate. The government had nothing to do with that. I expect it has more to do with Apple wanting to improve their chipsets with the ultimate goal of ditching Intel.
The issue was never the throttling, it was the disclosure.
If your phone slows down and you know it's because of the battery, you probably just have the battery replaced. If you DON'T know that, then you probably replace the phone. The lawsuits aren't about the throttling, they're about the hiding of that fact. That's why if you go into your Settings app right now you see a clear indicator of whether the battery is up to peak performance capacity. That was all added after "batterygate".
Throttling is a great engineering solution to problems of battery chemistry, so long as the user is aware of the fact that a battery replacement = recouping peak processing capacity. Apple neglected to tell people about this, and untold numbers of iPhones may have been unnecessarily replaced because without any other information to go on, users thought their phones had just "gotten slow" over time.
This is incorrect. Again, check the "battery health" section of your Settings and you can see right there what's up with your battery and whether peak performance is supported. If it is, there's no throttling happening. If it's not, your processor might have peak performance clipped to keep the phone from shutting down because the battery isn't able to provide enough power to support it.
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In some cases, it's not even simply non-disclosure but Apple Store geniuses making outright denials that battery health affected performance.
It's not just the disclosure part but also denying battery replacement services for customers with affected hardware. There were a number of customers being told their battery was fine even if battery issues has meant performance was cut down in half.
How did the government stop Apple from "crippling our iPhone's"? Inquiring minds want to know.
It was really the 64bit a-series chip that did that. That chip provided enough horsepower to run future generations of IOS. The 32-bit a-series was not as powerful as the 64 a-series and were more sensitive to future updates.
Power management had nothing to do with slowdowns as such as not everybody cared or noticed them. On my 6s, there was no difference.
So I totally get that you have a legitimate issue with eye strain and FaceID. Don’t want to belittle that. But I legit LOL’d when I read your post and then saw your avatar picture.
Due to failing battery. When the battery was replaced, performance was back to normal. We don't have magic batteries yet that can last 5 years without degradation.
And yet, if we compare 4s and nexus 5, I would keep the nexus ... in my opinion it is now more alive
The Nexus 5 was released two years later than the 4S though. A fairer comparison would be the A7-based iPhone 5s (and iPad mini 2, iPad Air, etc).
I've used A7 on iOS 12 and I actually find it to very tolerable. Far from the mess that was the A5 on iOS 9.