When are they going enable syncing within iTunes Match?

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by benguild, Nov 24, 2011.

  1. benguild macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2003
    Still not feeling the whole "iTunes Match! Let's manage music on multiple devices thing." ... The iPod was successful, because it was easy!

    I can never keep track of which music is where anymore.... :mad:
  2. zhenya macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2005
    Not quite sure what you mean. Match makes ALL of your music, playlists, metadata, etc exactly the same no matter what device you access it from. What are you trying to keep track of? :confused:
  3. benguild thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2003
    What music is available when I'm offline.
  4. PNutts macrumors 601


    Jul 24, 2008
    Pacific Northwest, US
    The music that you've chosen to download to the device. While online, you can turn off displaying music that isn't on the device so there's no confusion.
  5. benguild thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2003
    Right, but I have playlists setup like "Recently Added" so that songs I add are automatically put on my iPhone. There's no such feature in iTunes Match :(
  6. zhenya macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2005
    What? ALL playlists you have in iTunes are also on your devices. And vice-versa. Match allows ALL devices and computers to stay in sync. Any songs you see on your device with a cloud icon are not (yet) physically on the device. No cloud, it is. You can still have your Recently Added playlist, and it will update on all devices in near real-time. As with any playlist, if you want to have it available offline, scroll to the bottom of the list and Download All.


    And to directly address your concern here, if anything, Match makes things MUCH simpler - there is no longer any managing what music is on what device. Sorry, but it was never easy to pick the 26GB of music that would happen to fit in the free space on my phone. With Match, all that manual syncing and choosing what goes where is no longer necessary.
  7. WisdomWolf macrumors regular

    Apr 15, 2010
    I get what the OP is saying. If you happen to be somewhere without signal, that's a bad time to realize that the CD you just ripped on your computer is "in the cloud" instead of being available offline on your iDevice. What he's asking is when will Apple have a setting to automatically download all the songs in certain playlists as they are updated. Then you get the automated syncing of your most used and most recent music, plus the availability of the rest of your library wherever there is a network connection. It's a great idea, but they need to iron out the functionality bugs in Match first.
  8. zhenya macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2005
    Fair enough, but that doesn't make things any more complicated now than they were before. At least with Match you have the option to stream your content. Either way requires some management if you want to be sure your music is available offline. One requires a computer to sync, the other requires a network connection. I'd be surprised to see Apple offer automatic downloads to playlists any time soon as they are being extremely careful about data usage.
  9. WisdomWolf macrumors regular

    Apr 15, 2010
    I would think its something they would do when on Wi-Fi and connected to power. Basically the same as Wi-Fi sync, only now it's with the cloud.
  10. benguild thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jul 29, 2003
    It's a nice option, but a lot of places I listen to my music I don't have sufficient 3G coverage to download songs on demand. And it's also a waste of bandwidth/battery.

    I've grown accustomed to just selecting which music I want to have with me in advance, but the appeal of Match is being able to download songs on-the-go that I'd forgotten.

    The problem is that I feel the music is difficult to manage on the device itself, and it'd be nice to have a hybrid of the two systems in place or something.

    Plus, I don't want incomplete playlists to be visible either unless "Show All Songs" is turned on. Little kinks definitely should be ironed out, but so far between computers, iTunes Match is fantastic.
  11. DeeGee48 macrumors regular


    Jun 28, 2007
    Havertown, Pa
    Match AND Sync??

    After iTunes match is run and everything is either matched or uploaded, what of songs it LEAVES BEHIND? Is it possible to sync them over the old-fashioned way, with the sync cable? Can they then be placed in their proper place(s) in the appropriate playlist(s)? Or are you just screwed out of those songs? :eek:
  12. bp1000 macrumors 65816

    Jul 7, 2011
    If you want all songs on a particular playlist to be available why not just download them to the devices when connected to wifi, when you create the playlist.

    Obviously you have to pick and choose which albums/playlists/songs to keep permanently on the devices. I can easily determine which albums/songs i would like to have with me at all times, everything else is a bonus.

    Luckily i have enough space on my iPhone and iPad for my favourite stuff.

    If i'm outside cell coverage and i feel like listening to an album i don't have offline, well thats life.
  13. RealMonster, Dec 24, 2011
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2011

    RealMonster macrumors member


    Oct 28, 2007
    Yeah, but is there a way to capture the whole playlist when it's on your phone without pressing the download icon for every single song? I have hundreds of songs in some of my playlists. Pressing download for each song, one by one, is a distinctly un-Apple-like level of inconvenience.

    Edit: Ah-ha; my playlists are so long, I didn't think to scroll all the way to the bottom, where the 'download all' button is. It should really be at the top.

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