When did Apple make lightning cable thicker?

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  1. mrtune macrumors 6502a

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    Today I went to replace my old iPhone 6 charging cord that was starting to come apart at the lightning end. Grabbed the cord out of my iPhone 7 Plus box and noticed it's much thicker than the old one.

    Being curious I did some charging tests with a USB inline current meter. With my phone down to about 60% charge the old cord would charge at 1.3A (6.5W) and the new cord charges at 1.6A (8W). So looks like older lightning cords will slow down the charging speed compared to what Apple is currently shipping.

    Figured I would share my findings as I searched first but didn't find the answer I was looking for.

    PS. As a side note, kind of interesting that iPhones still ship with a 5W wall charger. They should toss the 12W ipad adapter into the phone boxes. But that's a different topic all together.
     
  2. Brookzy macrumors 601

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    I know the longer cords are thicker because their length necessitates a larger gauge.

    Was your old Lightning cord a 0.5 metre one?

    Alternatively it could be due to the newer cords being free of environmental toxins, which I think started a couple of years ago? (It still varies by country).

    This is assuming the old cord is genuine, however: the fact it carries a lower current raises suspicion in that regard.
     
  3. Relentless Power macrumors P6

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    I've wondered this too. Also the material on the cable is different. It's more course and not as supple as the previous cables.
     
  4. Brookzy macrumors 601

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    In which case, it must be related to the removal of PVC or another toxin from the cables.
     
  5. mrtune thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Both cords were OEM cords. One from my iPhone 6 box (which I've been using for the last year) and one from iPhone 7 Plus box. Same length.

    The older cord had some markings on the charge pin that looked like corrosion that might affect charge capacity, but I don't have a perfect old cord to compared against. Needless to say the older cord got tossed in the garbage as a result of my test.
     
  6. iDemiurge macrumors 6502

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    Isn't this down to use? I've noticed that the cable tend to get more flexible and "smoother" with time, and also "feel" a somewhat flimsier as they get old.
     
  7. mrtune thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Measured it with a caliper. New cable is beefier than old cable, both the actual cable/strain relief and the plastic housing for the lightning plug. Significant enough that I noticed it right away the day I pulled it out of the box, before any kind of testing.
     
  8. lordofthereef macrumors G5

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    I hadn't. Prices this but I need to check my wife's cable out now. If I can remember lol. Maybe my prayers have been answered and the cable won't fray in me anymore!
     
  9. CTHarrryH macrumors 65816

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    Happened to buy 2 1 m cables today at Apple store (replace one that was coming apart and one for carplay in new car) and noticed that cable seemed much thicker - I haven't measured but certainly seemed noticeably different. Good to know that I wasn't imagining things.
     
  10. Nanotyrns macrumors 6502a

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    Cable from my 6s Plus and 7 Plus. In my hand the 7 Plus cable does appear thicker but the pic seems like they are identical. Or my eyes are bad...

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  11. HEK Suspended

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    I take my old worn cords in for exchange, get new one free at Apple Store.
     
  12. iDemiurge macrumors 6502

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    Do they really do that? Awesome if true.
     
  13. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    There is definitely a different feel of the newer cables than older. I have a brand new Pre-iPhone 7 cable and my brand new iPhone 7plus cable. The Pre-7 cable is more tacky feeling, tangles easier and doesn't 'bounce back' as easily if you bend it. I much prefer the iPhone 7 cable.
     
  14. Gjwilly macrumors 68030

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    The PVC was removed even before the switch to Lightning so it's not that.
     
  15. itsray macrumors 6502

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    yes but you have to bring them in with a phone that is under warranty.
     
  16. HEK Suspended

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    No I lied to make everyone envious...............geez.

    Yes they really did that. I pushed the fact that I have always had applecare+ and the last time I did it I had to elivate to next level at Apple Store. But, yes they really have done it for me more than once. Returned four cables so far when the ends became undone with insulation splitting.

    I also have purchased longer cables along with iPad power adapters. Never had a power adapter go bad on me. Just some of the cables.
     
  17. iDemiurge macrumors 6502

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    Sorry mate, badly worded, didn't suggest you lied. It was just not clear to me under which circumstances they'd agree to do it. Does take a bit of talking or a device under warranty, but still good piece of info though.
     
  18. Will22 macrumors 65816

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    I presumed it was the new iphone 7 that the cable got harder.

    It is much better I think and easier to store when not using it.
     
  19. HEK, Oct 21, 2016
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    No problem, more funning with you.

    It just takes politely not accepting no as their answer. They will give some sort of, components not part of warranty, argument. I just didn't accept that response, citing my numerous Apple purchases and applecare+ purchases for which I had yet to make any claim against.

    In the end a cable costing a few dollars, was not worth making a big deal over from their point of view. They can look up all the money I have spent on Apple products over the years.
     
  20. RByers8252 macrumors regular

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    Mother in law just bought a iPad Pro last month and when I set it up I definitely noticed the cable was noticeably thicker and felt stronger.
     
  21. HEK Suspended

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    Is that the USB-C cable that comes with the iPad Pro?
     
  22. Retired Cat macrumors 65816

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    I noticed this too. The gauge on the cable that came from my SE is noticeable heavier that the cable that came with my 5.

    The SE's cable has noticeably bends and sort of folds into a square pattern, while the 5's cable curls into loops.
     
  23. Sparky1603 macrumors newbie

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    Sounds like you're using the iPad charger, wave goodbye to your battery, they ship with a 1A 5W charger for a reason!

     
  24. Brookzy macrumors 601

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    Yes and that reason is cost. No problem with charging an iPhone at 10W.
     
  25. edlex macrumors 68000

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    Absolutely right. I've used 12w charger with every phone and since the 6 it allows faster charging times.
     

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