Simple question - obviously only a guess... When do you think we'll start seeing 2018 MBPs hit the refurbished section of the Apple Store? My first MBP was a 2009 from Refurb - and it's still in use today with an older family member. I'm on a 2013 MBP... which is working fine, however it being out of warranty is little concerning. I use my MBP for work - musical gigs - so having a reliable one is top priority. Obviously the Refurbs are in 100% perfect condition, so I'm waiting to save a little cash.