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iPhone SE (2016) When do you think next iPhone SE will come?
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At this point, any answer would be pure speculation.. If you want the phone, just get it. I highly doubt it will be before September
There is basically zero chance of Apple launching an iPhone before the September keynote, that Is traditionally not how they operate. If the iPhone SE were to be updated, it likely would have happened either back in early spring or during WWDC. The SE is not something I would believe will happen for 2018, perhaps 2019 might see a refresh. But this year the focus has been on the 6.1 rumored LCD iPhone, 5.8 iPhone X and 6.5 iPhone X.
And no, there are no other ‘Hardware’ events specifically Apple related after WWDC until their fall Keynote in September.
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So I just got the SE yesterday and I love it. Truly hope they update it one day because it’s one of my new favorite phones.
With the recent price drops again ($145 on ATT Prepaid, which includes $45 in account credits). Getting into the price range of the 5s on prepaid carriers before they stopped selling it.
The 6s is a nicer phone (unless the smaller size of the SE is important for you), but it is only down to $299 so far.
Hard to believe they still sell the iPhone 6 new, with its poor relative performance anymore, and poor T-Mobile support.
With Android based phones, you don't want to buy old models because you will be lucky if you even get security updates. With Apple phones, the tech changes in LTE bands is the issue.
The 6s is a nicer phone (unless the smaller size of the SE is important for you), but it is only down to $299 so far.
Hard to believe they still sell the iPhone 6 new, with its poor relative performance anymore, and poor T-Mobile support.
With Android based phones, you don't want to buy old models because you will be lucky if you even get security updates. With Apple phones, the tech changes in LTE bands is the issue.
Its possible they will. But I don’t see Apple investing regular hardware updates with a 4 inch iPhone in 2018, Being they will emphasize the larger, more expensive iPhones. 2019 is very possible with an entirely different perspective of a redesign.
Other than prepaid iPhone SE, I am not seeing any discounted prices.. Verizon customer and was hoping to find one to upgrade a family member still using a basic phone. Want to purchase a new model since this person obviously keeps their phone for a long period.
It will be next year now if we are lucky. The rumours said it would be announced at WWDC, no other rumours have said any other timescale bar next year now. In September all rumours only say a new X and X Plus and the cut down on features cheap 6.1” LCD model will be announced.
Or the rumoured 6.1” iPhone WILL be the new SE model.
Or the rumoured 6.1” iPhone WILL be the new SE model.
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I could TOTALLY see that happening. I agree with those who say the SE was about cost, not size, and if Apple finds a way to make a large screen phone close to the same price as the SE, then we can say goodbye to small iPhones. Which would totally suck for me, since I LOVE the small size and would pay DOUBLE for a small, full-featured phone.
Well.......
The Forbes source I was quoting stating that a new X styled SE was on the way, citing the Olixar case deigner with a proven track record, has, I’m afraid, claimed Apple have scrapped the idea! And hence we will have the three new X style models launched this year
It really isn’t looking too good for any new SE X design I’m afraid..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/06/17/apple-iphone-x-mini-cancellation-iphone-se2-iphone-x2-new-iphones-specs/#159576476305
But he does now claim a new SE will be launched but based on the same current design, with upgraded internals, and apparently a significant price increase?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/05/31/apple-new-iphone-x-se2-x2-design-specs-price-release-date/#186bbe47640d
As for me, I’ll bite the bullet and look at the new cheaper 6.1”, leaked schematics show it’s a nats breath bigger then the new X, but I’ll be annoyed with the loss of 3D Touch that’s rumoured.
The Forbes source I was quoting stating that a new X styled SE was on the way, citing the Olixar case deigner with a proven track record, has, I’m afraid, claimed Apple have scrapped the idea! And hence we will have the three new X style models launched this year
It really isn’t looking too good for any new SE X design I’m afraid..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/06/17/apple-iphone-x-mini-cancellation-iphone-se2-iphone-x2-new-iphones-specs/#159576476305
But he does now claim a new SE will be launched but based on the same current design, with upgraded internals, and apparently a significant price increase?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/05/31/apple-new-iphone-x-se2-x2-design-specs-price-release-date/#186bbe47640d
As for me, I’ll bite the bullet and look at the new cheaper 6.1”, leaked schematics show it’s a nats breath bigger then the new X, but I’ll be annoyed with the loss of 3D Touch that’s rumoured.
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Good that you got it.
They will update it, but who knows when? Plenty of rumours though.
It’s a classic modell, and many like the size, so it’s not gonna disappear.
Well.......
The Forbes source I was quoting stating that a new X styled SE was on the way, citing the Olixar case deigner with a proven track record, has, I’m afraid, claimed Apple have scrapped the idea! And hence we will have the three new X style models launched this year
It really isn’t looking too good for any new SE X design I’m afraid..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/06/17/apple-iphone-x-mini-cancellation-iphone-se2-iphone-x2-new-iphones-specs/#159576476305
But he does now claim a new SE will be launched but based on the same current design, with upgraded internals, and apparently a significant price increase?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/05/31/apple-new-iphone-x-se2-x2-design-specs-price-release-date/#186bbe47640d
As for me, I’ll bite the bullet and look at the new cheaper 6.1”, leaked schematics show it’s a nats breath bigger then the new X, but I’ll be annoyed with the loss of 3D Touch that’s rumoured.
Back to square one...
Ming-Chi Kuo Casts Doubt on iPhone SE 2, Expects Few Changes Should New Model Launch
The SE2 rumors (especially the notch design) make so little sense, I'm convinced it's bait designed to identify leakers. There's a good reason why Ming-Chi Kuo is known as the most reliable Apple analyst in the world.
Apple routinely leaks fake info to the supply chain to flush out leakers. Guys like Ming-Chi Kuo and Mark Gurman know the game and don't take the bait.
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The SE has been about cost since day one. Tim Cook made it clear during their earnings call back in 2016.
When people finally accept the SE was designed for emerging markets, they finally understand why SE hasn't been updated for more than 2 years. The romantic dreams of a thin-bezel SE with Face ID are simply ridiculous.
Since day one, the SE was intended for first-time smartphone buyers in India and Africa, not 4-inch lovers. The majority of those customers simply cannot afford an SE and it makes no sense for Apple to update it.
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We shall see, but Ming has been wrong several times before, he also flip flopped over the X several times with what it would have. So he isn’t always reliable. Case manufactures can be just as reliable as him.
And the SE was never designed for emerging markets, sorry but it was released in the West long before anywhere else had it. The reason it is built in India is because Apple wants to get more sales, it identified India as a market growing. Although considering the humanitarian issues over there it’s quite disturbing some of them walk around with iPhones!
But the Indian government insisted they had to build the iPhone there, so they picked the SE. It wasn’t designed for them directly.
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Every analyst and Apple insider has been wrong. None of them have had a perfect track record. But no one has had a track record that Ming Kuo has had when it comes to Apples predictions. Clearly the iPhone SE is not slated to be updated this year at all and 2019 is completely unpredictable at this point if it will even exist, as it likely was a one time offering in that specific 4 inch form factor.
Definitely not a relevant comparison to Ming Kuo versus a case maker. Case makers work off renders/leaked schematics/measurements on what they hear based off rumors and then they purportedly report what they think will happen. He, (Ming Kuo) has had direct inside information with Suppliers. Does case makers have inside information with Apple? I doubt that.
Not quite. While the SE's price made it into the "cheapest" iPhone in most markets, it is definitely not intended for emerging markets. Why? Because at those markets, the SE's price is still expensive. Apple didn't even bother releasing it in some markets (while they continued releasing the 7, 8, and X). The SE was intended to be a "free" with contract or inexpensive prepaid phone in the western markets. Those who can afford iPhones in the emerging markets want the large screen, thus the huge popularity of the Plus phones in those markets. If they wanted a cheap phone, there are a ton of Android phones that are half the cost of the SE.
Does that mean its selling any less? Tim Cook even commented that they were surprised how well the iPhone SE was selling.
https://www.macworld.com/article/3062574/apple-phone/the-iphone-se-a-surprise-hit.amp.html
What does that have to do with the SE though? What about where some smart phones like the iPhone X are priced exorbitant and it’s not affordable in some countries, and they offer phones like the iPhone SE as an alternative/affordable entry level phone. Those emerging markets might be interested in larger display iPhones, but they may not always be obtainable with the associated costs.
No, obviously it's not selling "less," but is it "selling" as much in the emerging markets since people are claiming that the SE is for those markets? The SE is selling well even in developed markets like Hong Kong and US, thus making my point that just because it is the "cheapest" iPhone, it doesn't mean it is specifically for emerging markets. Like I stated, people in emerging markets who want iPhones will get the Plus iPhones, not the SE.
Go to SE Asia, and you'll be surprised how many people sporting the X. I know I was.
Apple sells the SE for $70 less in India compared to the U.S. market. And that's after taxes.
https://www.amazon.in/Apple-iPhone-SE-Rose-Gold/dp/B06ZXWWD6R/
Apple asked Wistron to build a factory in Bangalore just to assemble the SE and serve the Indian market.
The iPhone 6 and SE are the top selling phones on Amazon India, not the Plus. I think you're confusing emerging markets like India and Africa with developed markets like China. If iPhone Plus were popular in emerging markets, Bangalore would be pumping out Plus, not SE.
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In the U.S., the SE represents something like 3% of buyers based on surveys. That's completely unlike emerging markets. It's far from selling "well" in developed markets.