When in 2012 for iPhone 5?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by PracticalMac, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. PracticalMac, Oct 4, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2011

    PracticalMac macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX

    1. Sprint signed a massive exclusive deal for iPhone, but iPhone 4S does not sound like exclusive deal for Sprint.
    2. T-Mobile execs said nothing "this year (2011)".
    3. Case makers shipping iPhone 5 stuff
    4. iPhone 3GS came out same time as iPhone 4 (EDIT: was 8GB version, 16 and 32 came out year earlier)
    5. iPhone 4 is format almost 15 months old.
    6. Now is start of Christmas season.

    Despite the similar exterior, the interior seems to have significant updates in multiple network support and highly advanced "switching antenna" design, plus the A5 CPU.
    It may be this is a careful development step to a far more flexible "world phone".

    Being the start of shopping season, it is too late to launch an iPhone 5 as well, and the iPhones will start to compete with themselves.

    I am predicting that Apple will use the first few weeks of iPhone 4S usage as a test of the new hardware designs and make adjustments to the final iP5 guts.

    With November the design freeze date (before Thanks giving so engineers can take extended holiday ;) ), the final article boards are ordered into production, which will take some days to begin the process.
    December could see parts for iPhone 5 going down the line.
    January will be announcement of iPhone 5, which will go on sale in..
    February, possibly with Sprint getting a heard start on the 5.

    T-Mobile will also get the 5 (and the 3GS goes out of production).

    Plausible?, or BUSTED!
  2. andyx3x macrumors 65816

    Mar 1, 2011
    My guess is Apple will go back to a June/July launch in 2012.
  3. gkarris macrumors 604


    Dec 31, 2004
    "No escape from Reality..."
  4. ericg301 macrumors 65816

    Jun 15, 2010
    not going to happen. apple didn't wait 16 months to update the iPhone, only to update it again in 6 months.

    the iPhone5 cases were based on a stolen prototype. some theories say apple leaked it themselves, to try to find who in the supply chain is selling them out.

    why would apple let t-mobile carry the iphone, when t-mobile is in the middle of trying to be bought by AT&T?
  5. gadget123 macrumors 68000

    Apr 17, 2011
    United Kingdom
    You mean Iphone 6th gen?

    Who says it will be Iphone 5 they may call it Iphone 4S.2 or Iphone 4.5.
  6. curitibagarrett macrumors member

    Jun 29, 2007
    woudln't surprise me if we see a 15 month cycle again. so early 2013?
  7. gadget123 macrumors 68000

    Apr 17, 2011
    United Kingdom
    Also the first three Iphones all had the same design so whos to say Iphone 5 next year won't keep this years design AGAIN? Why not?
  8. brendu macrumors 68020

    Apr 23, 2009
    Check your FACTS. It is not a FACT that Sprint signed an EXCLUSIVE deal with Apple. That was speculation and it is pretty obvious they made a deal but it is anything but EXCLUSIVE. Everything else looks okay though.
  9. eastercat macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2008
    I'd like it if they went back to a summer release for the iphone, but maybe apple wants to show all i-related devices at once. Anyway, a fall release does make it easier on people who are waiting in line in the south. In addition, fall gets in the mind of people who are checking off winter holiday gifting lists.
    I'll go with a range of summer to fall for iphone 5 (or whatever it'll be called).
  10. wolfie37 macrumors member

    Dec 29, 2007
    Newtownabbey, Northern Ireland
    As it will be the 6th iPhone it makes no sense to call it iPhone5, it will be iPhone6.
    (remember there was no iPhone2)
  11. ntrigue macrumors 68040


    Jul 30, 2007
    Mark my words, no new iPhone before September 2012.
  12. Mr.C macrumors 601

    Apr 3, 2011
    London, UK.
    Not going to happen. The next iPhone won't be released until at least July next year.
  13. 4:20 macrumors member

    Sep 20, 2011
    I marked them. Red. They are wrong.
  14. Error Type -43 macrumors member

    Sep 16, 2003
    History shows the major refresh is every two years which is why rumors of an iPhone 5 surprised me in the first place. I'm betting on its actual release to be summer-fall 2012.
  15. thegorgatron macrumors newbie

    Feb 24, 2011
    Late 2012/early2013

    I know lots of people are going to hope for a summer release but I think its going to be 12 to 15 months for the next iPhone.

    I think the 4's long life cycle was a deliberate choice. Even with supply constraints I think they could have launched this months ago since it is largely just a conglomeration of parts they already used in other products. It seems to me they didn't want to end the life of a perfectly successful smart phone that was still selling well. I mean they even released the white version only a few months ago.

    On second thought, that point should have probably been the biggest clue we were getting and iPhone that looked like the 4. Why spend the time and money making a white one if you are just going to change the way it looks I 6 months? They did it because they knew all along the work they were doing was going to be used for the next iPhone as well. Hind sight is 20/20 I guess.
  16. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    Well, we do not know yet. BGR reported an EXCLUSIVE agreement, but this is for the mythical iPhone 5, so it may be true.

    So it is a plausible, but I am not gonna bet on it.

    First, the 4S is an "speed bump", much like the the 3GS is to the 3G.

    Second, the 4 format is already 15 months old, Apple will not get a lot of sales no matter how awesome its guts are (because it LOOKS old!).

    Third, the AT&T + T-Mobile deal was blocked by SEC, and it is very unlikely to happen, and Deutch Telecom needs iPhone to sell T-Mobi (who want a service with no iPhone?)

    Interesting suggestion about a fake design, but what benefit it is to Apple? There are few, maybe very few, produces Apple can choose to make phones.

    Well, I adjust my first prediction to March, perhaps at same time with iPad 3
  17. yegon macrumors 68030

    Oct 20, 2007
    12 months from now, max. Another 15 months? What are you people smoking! The real reason for the 15 month wait is, so far, known only to Apple but it's clearly going to be an October or July cyle from now, most likely the former.

    I'd be flabbergasted if it was 6 months, probably loads of stupid rumours about to kick in about this ala the imaginary iPad 3 in 2011.
  18. PracticalMac, Oct 4, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2011

    PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    A Feb 2012 launch is 21 months,
    March is 22 months
    April is 23 months
    June 24 months, 2 years (and start of summer)

    Seems just about right, then. :)

    I realized an error, the 3GS was out a year before 4.

    That is wrench in works.
  19. DMVillain macrumors 6502a

    Jul 20, 2011
    Mindless Conjecture...

    Would it make since to release an iPhone 5 with possibly A6 and iOS 6? no. With that said I believe WWDC will be hardware just like this year it was about software. But who knows.
  20. grantsdale macrumors 6502a

    May 11, 2008
    If the 4S doesn't meet the sales projections, they will definitely push to go back to a July launch for next year to get things back on track
  21. ravensfan55 macrumors 6502

    Mar 16, 2009
    Summer. By then we'll have a new batch of 4G chipsets and 4G coverage will be widely available for Verizon and AT&T customers.

    Plus Apple will have an idea of what frequency bands Sprint's rumored LTE network will be running on.
  22. Jessay macrumors member

    Jul 29, 2011
    Correction, the iPhone 3GS came out in June of 09'. The 3G came out in July of 08'. Why did Apple wait an extra 4 months? I guarantee we won't see the iPhone 5 till October of 2012.
  23. cuestakid macrumors 68000

    Jun 14, 2006
    San Fran
    I actually think there is an outside chance it could be 2013-apple is not gonna touch 4G chips until either

    A) the heat they produce won't make the iphone a boiler plate and last longer than 3 hrs with all settings on or

    B) they can find someone to make a small enough chip to accomplish A

    C) 4G is more common place, though this is more up to the providers than Apple.

    I think C will make Apple wait. They don't want people in Philly to be able to get 4G but people in Miami can't (I picked random cities-I have no knowledge if these two have 4G on any carrier at all).
  24. Zord macrumors 6502


    Jul 10, 2010
    Yes, This +1
  25. lulla01 macrumors 68020


    Jul 13, 2007

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