Carrier When is AT&T’s “5G E” indicator coming to iPhone?

[ecschwarz]

I was thinking it would only be the XS line. Wasn’t that the reason for adding antenna lines and messing up the symmetry on the bottom?

Yeah, some articles initially said LTE Advanced devices, but digging in, it looks like AT&T's features and usage lines up more with LTE Advanced Pro (what a mouthful): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced_Pro

(So yeah, XS/XS Max would be my guess)

 

[msp3]

You are now aware we *already do* have a fake speed indicator, the "4G" mark! T-Mobile started that scam by claiming their 3G HSPDA was as fast as 4G and AT&T followed up in no time! Absolutely shameful

 

[slippery-pete]

I get excited about 5g. Am I the only one?

 

[greg5green]

You are now aware we *already do* have a fake speed indicator, the "4G" mark! T-Mobile started that scam by claiming their 3G HSPDA was as fast as 4G and AT&T followed up in no time! Absolutely shameful

AT&T had the 4G indicator on iPhones (starting with the 4s) before Apple was even making iPhones for T-Mobile (which started halfway through the 5's product cycle).

 

[MacNut]

5G is years away from being widespread enough to notice.

 

[ecschwarz]

You are now aware we *already do* have a fake speed indicator, the "4G" mark! T-Mobile started that scam by claiming their 3G HSPDA was as fast as 4G and AT&T followed up in no time! Absolutely shameful

Yep - people have been going after T-Mobile's criticism of AT&T for that reason, but the era of T-Mobile that pushed that was a very different company (they had almost no LTE and were trying to keep the lights on).

Edit: Looks like T-Mobile started doing it in 2010: https://www.eweek.com/mobile/t-mobile-calls-hspa-4g-introduces-largest-4g-network

AT&T got it on the 4S with iOS 5.1 (March 2012) …this was a fun trip down memory lane.

 

[Aftermath747]

Yeah, some articles initially said LTE Advanced devices, but digging in, it looks like AT&T's features and usage lines up more with LTE Advanced Pro (what a mouthful): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced_Pro

(So yeah, XS/XS Max would be my guess)

Thanks for this. I didn’t even know “LTE-Advanced Pro” existed.
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I get excited about 5g. Am I the only one?

I think a lot of us are excited about 5G. Not so much about the fake 5G this is. Nevertheless, I’d be excited to see a fancy new “5G E” logo in the top right.
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Yep - people have been going after T-Mobile's criticism of AT&T for that reason, but the era of T-Mobile that pushed that was a very different company (they had almost no LTE and were trying to keep the lights on).

Edit: Looks like T-Mobile started doing it in 2010: https://www.eweek.com/mobile/t-mobile-calls-hspa-4g-introduces-largest-4g-network

AT&T got it on the 4S with iOS 5.1 (March 2012) …this was a fun trip down memory lane.

Wasn’t this around the time AT&T bought T-Mobile? Good times.

 

[chrfr]

5G is years away from being widespread enough to notice.

This isn't about actual 5G, it's about AT&T's deceptive relabeling of newer LTE features as "5G Evolution".

 

[C DM]

Looks like the latest iOS 12.2 beta 2 has it already for the iPhone.

 

[acorntoy]

This isn't about actual 5G, it's about AT&T's deceptive relabeling of newer LTE features as "5G Evolution".

Is anybody surprised? ALL the carriers did it with their evolved 3G calling it “4G” before LTE came out.

 

[C DM]

Is anybody surprised? ALL the carriers did it with their evolved 3G calling it “4G” before LTE came out.

From what I recall, most/many didn't do it, only a few (or some, at the most) did it with their "3.5"G service.

 

[acorntoy]

From what I recall, most/many didn't do it, only a few (or some, at the most) did it with their "3.5"G service.

I believe both T-Mobile and AT&T participated in it (With HSPA+). Sprint was stuck advertising 4G with WiMAX (which I don’t believe actually met 4G speed requirements) and they couldn’t improve the CDMA 3G, and Verizon because CDMA couldn’t really improve so they focused on LTE coverage. So basically, every company that had the technology to improve their 3G advertised it as 4G at the time.

 

[C DM]

I believe both T-Mobile and AT&T participated in it (With HSPA+). Sprint was stuck advertising 4G with WiMAX (which I don’t believe actually met 4G speed requirements) and they couldn’t improve the CDMA 3G, and Verizon because CDMA couldn’t really improve so they focused on LTE coverage. So basically, every company that had the technology to improve their 3G advertised it as 4G at the time.

That's basically the thing, AT&T and potentially T-Mobile did it, but those are really the only 2 companies that were doing it as I recall off the top of my head, and speaking of providers world-wide, even those that had similar technologies rolled out compared to AT&T/T-Mobile at the time, I don't think there was really anyone else that was doing it.

 

[acorntoy]

That's basically the thing, AT&T and potentially T-Mobile did it, but those are really the only 2 companies that were doing it as I recall off the top of my head, and speaking of providers world-wide, even those that had similar technologies rolled out compared to AT&T/T-Mobile at the time, I don't think there was really anyone else that was doing it.

You forgot sprint, advertising a “4G” network that wasn’t anywhere close to official 4G speed specs. That’s 3/4 of the major carriers advertising 4G when it really wasn’t. It happened then, it makes complete sense it’ll happen now, I expect most of the other carriers to follow AT&T.

 

[teeshot44]

Looks like the latest iOS 12.2 beta 2 has it already for the iPhone.

Yep, it sure is

 

[AppleHaterLover]

Whoever at AT&T decided this was a good idea should be shot forced to use 3G for the rest of their lives.

This is SO consumer-unfriendly - "5G Evo" makes it seem that it's better than actual 5G. Call it LTE+ for God's sake.

Or they could call it the

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Which is what they're doing to their customers.