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I'm just curious.

Won't the older Mac Pros start selling for a lot more on eBay and whatnot because they'll be considered to be a 'rarity'? Perhaps Apple will decide to give the current Mac Pros a spec bump and continue selling it anyway once the new one comes out?

I'm assuming this has already been discussed quite a bit, sorry if it has.

If it does, it'll demonstrate a spectacular failure on Apple's design and marketing departments.

I honestly hope it does, so Apple goes back to PCIe.

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If talking online: In the "new" Mac section? Yes. From the refurb section? no.

That is just standard practice for all Apple products.

If talking physical stores: may not have been there now. But doubtfully uniform across all stores. Depends upon what else is being introduced the same day. Do they ship all the inventory back right away? Probably not, but also not fire sales on their bloated unsold inventory either. (there is not going to be any bloated unsold inventory). But it will be swapped when store gets new demo units.


However, the upside with the Mac pro being dramatically smaller I suspect it actually may get some display space in some physical stores where it has been bumped out. [ holiday season rush where need an extra table for higher volume stock. ] If Apple comes out with an even smaller TB display along side the new Mac Pro all the more likely will get some "face time" in smaller stores with limited display space.

I agree with this entire post. The last 2 Apple stores I visited had no Mac Pros on display as of a few months ago and one of them did not have them in stock (the other one probably didn't either, but I didn't ask).
 
once the new Mac Pro comes out, I will be selling my 12-Core, Time for a hole new setup, and i hope Apple releases new 4K Cinema displays to go along with the New Mac Pro that will be one awesome setup Dual 4k displays with 2013 Mac Pro
 
I've noticed on eBay the "old" MacPro's have ticked up a bit recently in the past couple of weeks. I don't think we will see a huge spike, but they will probably remain pretty consistent for a while.

For me the new Mac Pro has more drawbacks than benefits at this stage so unless it comes in priced lower than the previous Mac Pros I'll pass and either go with Haswell iMac or buy an older Mac Pro.
 
The bottom line is this:

Get ready for these headlines:

- The New Mac Pro overheating
- The New Mac Pro has video bug because of crossfire
- The New Mac Pro catches fire
- The New Mac Pro fan vents clog causing the computer to shut down
- The New Mac Pro Downclocking during CPU maxed out

Ah, the drama. :rolleyes:

Not comedy? :D And actually (without trying to make anyone mad) he has zero experience unless he's been building tube-shaped computers with 3-sided shared heat-sinks. :D
 
Anyone of you, guys, have an idea what type of price we can expect for new Mac Pro? Will it be around present for base model(2.5k $) or twice as that?
 
Im really hoping they price it out of my range.

Do it 3k+. I have no need for a pro computer, but Im lusting after this bad.
 
You are absolutely crazy to think Apple would build a machine which they cannot repair incrementally.

The SSD will be replaceable/upgradable.
The Graphics will be replaceable/upgradable.
The CPU will be replaceable/ ( depending on the socket "upgradable" )
The Cooling Fan will be replaceable.
The WiFi Chip will be replaceable.

Heck if you like, I'm sure you could purchase a logic board and replace that if needed.

Apple would not lock themselves into a corner of replacing an entire machine because of one faulty component.

SSD maybe upgradable, the rest in that list, i'd be 99% confident in saying that those parts will be soldered to boards, thus no upgradability. If a component fails you send the whole machine back to Apple and they will replace the board. They wan't their complete hardware range, from top to bottom, with no user installable or replaceable parts, they've made that quite clear. Software is also the same target. I suspect (in this example) they want to use one manufacturer of GPU so they don't have to write or maintain drivers for other manufacturers. AMD is in, Nvidia is out. They've been taking a chain saw approach to all their software by chopping out features (tell us to make it easier to use, same campaign politicians have used fro a longtime) to reduce resources needed to maintain them. All in all, penny pinching and laziness as far as i'm concerned, the user be damned is their attitude, they don't listen to the needs of their customers, as they have an agenda.
 
The only things that are going to shoot up are the heroin addicts in the mac community. The prices will slowly go down until they hit a floor of maybe $400.
 
If it does, it'll demonstrate a spectacular failure on Apple's design and marketing departments.

I honestly hope it does, so Apple goes back to PCIe.

I honestly wish that PCIe-to-Thunderbolt adapters weren't expensive as hell, because then the move 'away' from PCIe would be justified so much better to me.
 
I am amazed at how many folks want to turn each thread into a discussion of whether or not the nMP can be upgraded or why it is or isn't a terrific system. Jeez.
 
When the new Mac Pro comes out, will older Mac Pro prices shoot up?

Probably... At least for the high end most current models. At least in the short term... Once the capabilities (or lack thereof) become evident, the prices will go where they will... Probably down.
 
I bought my pre-owned '09 W3520 two years ago for $1650 and thought I got a good deal.

I see them on ebay now for $850 and not selling. One year ago I could have sold it for $1500.

I am not complaining, I'll stay with this machine for many more years, but I did have a gulp moment when I saw those prices...
 
I bought my pre-owned '09 W3520 two years ago for $1650 and thought I got a good deal.

I see them on ebay now for $850 and not selling. One year ago I could have sold it for $1500.

I am not complaining, I'll stay with this machine for many more years, but I did have a gulp moment when I saw those prices...

The dual processor versions are selling pretty well. I think many people have realized you can put a couple of W5590's in them for $400/pair and have a system that screams (~20K geek bench). The single CPU are more limited in what they can be upgraded to and the higher speed single CPUs are still high in price. If/when the W3690 came down in price to < $400 it would increase the value of the single cpu models.
 
If people absolutely believe the current Mac Pro will skyrocket in price, then they should ask themselves why they aren't buying several to resell at a profit later.

Once your own money is involved, suddenly it's not a a sure thing anymore. ;)
 
I am amazed at how many folks want to turn each thread into a discussion of whether or not the nMP can be upgraded or why it is or isn't a terrific system. Jeez.

I think it's to be expected. It's a pretty new concept to be hooking everything up via USB3 or TB2. And TB2 hasn't even been benchmarked by anyone yet. Most people kinda know what to expect from the old SATA2/PCIe/USB2 systems but the new ones are still a bit of a mystery to most. And every aspect of discussion from configuration to price directly relates and is intertwined with the performance, configurability, and why or why not the nMP is a "terrific system". So I think it's to b expected that a topic or sub-topic of one attribute spills over to all the other "intertwined" ones. Can't really be helped at this early stage - IMO.
 
The prices will drop a bit when a glut of old models find their way onto craigslist and ebay shortly after the new Mac Pro is released.
 
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