Broadcasters are already testing 8K content (NHK, DirecTV etc). Any estimate on when 8K capability will be available on Mac (OSX handling, HDMI/DVI/DP connectors etc). 8K (7680 x 4320) has 16x the pixels as 1080p. Could we expect this by 2015?
Probably not. Field testing of HDTV started in 1994; these things percolate for quite a long time at the vendor R&D level (occasionally popping up for trade show demos) before they really go anywhere. 8K is also of fairly marginal value for applications short of wall-sized screens that you're viewing from three feet away. That might well prove useful for data visualization applications, etc. but I'm not sure it'll be useful for video content consumption until sometime after bionic eye upgrades hit the marketBroadcasters are already testing 8K content (NHK, DirecTV etc). Any estimate on when 8K capability will be available on Mac (OSX handling, HDMI/DVI/DP connectors etc). 8K (7,680-by-4,320) has 16x the pixels as 1080p. Could we expect this by 2015?
Couldn't be more wrong!4K happened in a fraction of the time of HD. None of my clients are interested yet but I do see 8K being readily available in 2-3 years.
I agree, we will see affordable 4K TV/monitors long before content is actually rolled out for it. Unfortunately the Average Joe consumer isn't going to care much about 4K if their current 72 inch TV looks great to them, and it's going to be like that for a long time to come.Couldn't be more wrong!
HD is not even fully here yet. Most cable TV is still in 1080i max. Most of the providers can't even bring live 1080P to their customers, and this after roughly 10 years of HD. 4K may be fine for the computer environment, but in terms of taking over the living room, this will take a LONG time. The key to this whole problem is content and as long as TV channels are not in 4K, this technology won't really take off. I could envision a scenario where the TVs/Monitors are here but the content is not. And for true 4K quality video to stream perfectly, broadband speeds and availability will have to increase in unimaginable amounts. But to say that 4K "happened" is not a serious comments. It's not even here yet. What's your definition of "4K happened" ?
Thanks for being so condescending. Good contribution.Couldn't be more wrong!
Seriously? You ever been to an IMAX?
That may be true, but 4K displays are just starting to gain hype. I wouldn't call preliminary pipeline tests a good indication that this kind of content will be available soon. There are just too many areas where even 4K is not yet cost effective. It's not just shooting. Any effects have to be rendered at appropriate resolution for the footage.The human eye can resolve in far greater resolution than IMAX (8K).
We'll you can't not explain yourself and then complain that someone didn't understand what you were trying to say. And I said 4K will take off in the computer environment but NOT in the live tv market! Yes we have 4K cameras and 4K monitors. We also have computers that can display them but we DON'T have the broadband infrastructure to send 4K live TV to your living room.Thanks for being so condescending. Good contribution.
The OP never mentioned public broadcast output. I was referring to "working" in 4K and 8K DI formats. You know, film scanners, cameras, etc. have supported 4K+ for years. I've been using After Effects since version 3.5 (1998) and it's had a 4K Cineon preset as long as I can remember. 6K and 8K cameras already exist. What we use in post production, film restoration, etc. isn't necessarily output to 8K.
Even then, you can work in 4K on current computers, go to Best Buy and get 4K TVs, and home theater components and then go to the movies and watch them projected in 4K. You think that new content makes itself?
What a short-sighted response, osx11.
Seriously? You ever been to an IMAX?
And now, almost 20 years later, we still don't have mainstream 1080p signals from cable providers.Probably not. Field testing of HDTV started in 1994.....
Well the problem is that eventually 4K displays will come down in price and they need something new and expensive to charge customers higher premiums and so they'll release 8K monitors. As for the visual difference, I don't think the human eye could tell when viewing a "normal" sized monitor.
Wow, still condescending even when arguing with yourself. Happy holidays!We'll you can't not explain yourself and then complain that someone didn't understand what you were trying to say. And I said 4K will take off in the computer environment but NOT in the live tv market! Yes we have 4K cameras and 4K monitors. We also have computers that can display them but we DON'T have the broadband infrastructure to send 4K live TV to your living room.
That statement means nothing without some qualification. What's the pixel size? What's the viewing distance? There are practically no limitations to what the human eye can resolve under the right circumstances.The human eye can resolve in far greater resolution than IMAX (8K).
LOLWow, still condescending even when arguing with yourself. Happy holidays!
You might be interested in the Wikipedia page for Rec. 2020, the emerging set of standards for UHDTV. Interlaced formats are gone. 8-bit is gone, replaced with 10-bit and 12-bit. And the biggest deal, perhaps, is that the new color space is huge. Here it is next to Rec. 709 (current HD):Thanks for the info.