LG makes OLED screens, but you can Google it yourself. LG announced they will make the Apple Watch displays. The problem is: we KNOW for fact that blue degrades faster than other colors. If ONE colors degrades, it can't make up other colors accurately anymore, you need proper red, blues and greens for other colors. Yet you keep denying as if your life depends on it. It frustrates me and I will stop discussing with you right now, I have other things to worry about.
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iPad When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
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When will Apple go OLED on their tablets (and phones)
Lg makes OLED screens for tvs ... Don't make screens like for smartphones and the only people using AMOLED screens is Motorola and Samsung and Motorola are using old Samsung tech screens on theirs .
Yes blue degrades the fastest but who cares when it doesn't do it in 2 years plus ? Then we can make an argument that lcd screens die in what 24 thousand hours ? I think that was what my was stating
Lg makes OLED screens for tvs ... Don't make screens like for smartphones and the only people using AMOLED screens is Motorola and Samsung and Motorola are using old Samsung tech screens on theirs .
Yes blue degrades the fastest but who cares when it doesn't do it in 2 years plus ? Then we can make an argument that lcd screens die in what 24 thousand hours ? I think that was what my was stating
Oohara
macrumors 68040
My Note 2 screen is perfectly fine after over two years of intensive daily use. Man, people are really pulling their arguments out of thin air just to keep holding on desperately to their claims at this point.
Guys, just give it a rest and save yourselves getting an ulcer. Both amoled and LCD screens of today are excellent. Both produce the occasional manufacturing errors. Neither is clearly superior to the other. Just enjoy your devices and stop trying to find faults in every little thing.
tim said that the technology is a compromise now ( before for the bigger display, now for oled, clearly paraphrasing his words )
In two three years we likely have oled.... in the watch the oled is a must have because of the bezels (true black ; intact you have black background on the home) In future free form display would be the normality
In two three years we likely have oled.... in the watch the oled is a must have because of the bezels (true black ; intact you have black background on the home) In future free form display would be the normality
Amen ...people have their preferences but want to talk trash about the other making up impractical points about it . Yes AMOLED colors degrade but not in practical matter .
For example people want to talk trash about TN screens for computers because of bad viewing angles but a good TN screen will have good enough viewing angles that where it tampers off it is impractical to use the screen anyways and not normal usage . Yes IPS viewing angles are better but. Good TN screen can have almost as good viewing angles and is better for gaming imo
jrswizzle
macrumors 603
Dude, I really think you're some OLED salesmen or maybe one of the engineers who invented the tech.....what vested interest do you have in it?
I've seen the Sammy tablets.....nothing in that display makes me want to give up my iPad Air 2 - with its IPS LCD.
You seem to think the LCDs made 25 years ago are the exact same LCDs made today. As if progress and improvements can't be made within existing tech. Given the iPad displays keep getting better, I'd argue against that assertion.
I'm glad you love OLED. But I question why you feel like you need to promote it so much?
mi7chy
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You won't understand the huge differences unless you've owned one. You won't see them if you only briefly check it out in a lit store. The advantages in order of importance are in the areas of backlight bleed, gray as black, uniformity issues, yellowing, viewing angle, bad pixels, pressure distortion, etc.
jrswizzle
macrumors 603
Thank goodness I've never had any of these issues with my iPads and I don't care all that much that the "black" on my iPad isn't as black as it supposedly should be.
It certainly isn't any shade of gray I'd recognize.
MacNut
macrumors Core
I see more blue tint on the iPhone. The Note 4 and Nexus 6 look warmer while the iPhone 6 looks colder.
The-Real-Deal82
macrumors P6
What is a good way to check if the blacks on an iPhone are grey? Is there a certain application that exposes this as a flaw or makes it stand out more than normal?
jrswizzle
macrumors 603
Get a completely black picture, then pull it up full screen on your iphone. Look at it, then turn the display off. You'll notice a difference when the display is off.
I wouldnt call it gray though.
Liquorpuki
macrumors 68020
It's been 3 generations 
doesn't even wanna fix the crappy color gamut on the mini, I doubt they care about OLED vs LCD
doesn't even wanna fix the crappy color gamut on the mini, I doubt they care about OLED vs LCD
The-Real-Deal82
macrumors P6
Hmmm I've just done that and I think a black picture will always be slightly brighter than a turned off screen. It's extremely marginal though and if we wanted to be pedantic then we could call it the darkest possible grey, a tint shy of black, but then if we are worrying about it then I think there are perhaps deeper issues none tech related.
I've gone through apps, watching dark YouTube vids, looking at dark pictures and apps with black borders and I can honestly say this is a complete none issue. Modern screens be it iPhone, Samsung, LG, Moto, do not have noticeable issues with this kind of thing. This is nothing but a bun fight.
Thanks for the tip, I think it's given us a conclusion. 🙂
mi7chy
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Borrow an OLED device. Set a black background side by side in bathroom with door closed and light off. You'll also likely see backlight bleed around edges and corners and unevenness in screen uniformity. To add the previous list OLED also has more detail in dark scenes in movies where on LCD it tends to lost. You might not see a lot of the benefits in a well lit environment that masks out LCD's deficiencies but things like bad pixels, yellowing, viewing angle, pressure distortion, etc. still show.
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jrswizzle
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The-Real-Deal82
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If I've got to go to those lengths to try and see a difference, then I think it proves how insignificant or perhaps pointless it is arguing over this. I will take your word that OLED is scientifically better, but with marginal results I doubt many of us paupers with LCD smartphones are going to lose much sleep over it. Congrats to those with the better screens, have a pint on me. 🙂
jrswizzle
macrumors 603
Oh man, I've been looking for a phone I can watch my black screens on in the dark bathroom without that pesky light bleed....😛
I'm sorry....I think Samsung's displays are fantastic and give them tons of credit for working out pretty much all the kinks AMOLED had to begin with. I just don't see a HUGE difference from the iPhone's IPS LCDs - especially not enough to outweigh all the other reasons I buy iOS/iPhone.
Read the DisplayMate reviews - I pretty much concur with the results. The iPhone 6+ has the best LCD display anywhere and its excellent. The Note 4 has the best AMOLED (and overall) display anywhere and its excellent. The differences between the two are relatively minor.
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One "major" difference between LCDs and OLEDs is being taken care of by Quantum Dot tech. QDs in that middle layer between the LCD and backlight produce OLED-like color reproduction (100% RGB). Also enhance the efficiency.
Really all that's left is blacks not being "black enough", a bit of "light bleed" (that you have to be in a pitch black room to notice) and the application of flexible displays.
mi7chy
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Depends on your use case. One example is a lot of people watch movies in low light or dark so LCD would be unacceptable over OLED, plasma, etc. Curious to see how close triluminos tech is.
mi7chy
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If someone lives in Alaska where's there no night and never go indoors then he might settle for LCD but there's still higher power consumption, limited viewing angle, bad pixels, yellowing, pressure distortion, loss of detail in dark scenes, etc. in well lit environment. I prefer the best and most versatile so will always go premium with OLED when available otherwise have to settle for LCD like some tablet hybrids I just acquired.
Crap blacks and light bleed are pretty major issues imo. For example i was always a Plasma guy (Plasma has similar upsides to OLED), i recently went from a Panasonic Plasma to a Sony LED. Now as good as the Sony LED panel is i cant stand watching movies on it with the grey blacks and light bleed. The second OLED TV's are affordable ill be upgrading just to get deep blacks. LCD is a decent tech and has gotten better in the past few years but OLED is the future and it's clear by looking at the Note 4 screen that OLED is close to working out the downsides it had a few years ago.
The really funny thing is once iPhones go OLED the Apple fanboys will suddenly be praising the deep blacks and wondering how they ever went without an OLED display.
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jrswizzle
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I haven't experienced any of the things you mention. My iPhone lasts longer on a charge than the competition, the viewing angles are fantastic, the pixels are all just fine, no yellowing, no loss of detail and very easily seen in well lit environments thanks to extremely high brightness levels.
I prefer the best and most versatile device for my uses, not just display.
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They aren't "crap blacks". They are a tad/smidge shade lighter. Hardly anything that distorts a picture. Easily identifiable as black and FAR closer to black than gray.
This whole "light bleed" thing is so overblown. I can never tell on my iPhone/iPad. It never bothers me and has never been noticeable in any of my use cases (light, dark whatever). I have a Kindle Fire HDX that has a noticeable blue bleed around the edges, but its supposedly supposed to be there.....even that doesn't hinder my viewing.
I'm not arguing that OLED isn't the future. Obviously it is, its simply too cost prohibitive at this point and in my mind doesn't offer such drastic upgrades to make the cost difference worthwhile or to make me give up other features I much prefer.
And this little dandy of a statement:
What fanboy troll bait....do you think this is clever and original? It's the same idiotic argument that pops up everywhere around here. The only people who think this are those who want to stir up trouble.
I can tell you exactly how I'll react if/when Apple moves to OLED:
"Cool, the display is really nice."
*(spoiler - that was my reaction to the latest 6+ display.....aka the displays are plenty nice enough as is)*
Try sitting in your bedroom when it's dark and have a password set on the device. Then wake it up to the slider screen and look how washed out the background is (it should be black).
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Not to mention OLED's blazing-fast refresh rate capability, and pixel response (.02 ms).
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You misread - the Galaxy Note 4 was stated to have the best cellphone screen they've ever tested. Which includes all iPhones.
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How does adding a film between the backlight and the LCD increase efficiency? It's absorbing some of the light, which implies the backlight has to be brighter (using more, not less power) to get the same brightness to the screen.
No this wasn't troll bait, this is exactly what happens every time when Apple finally releases a feature or technology that has been in play for a while with other companies. I still remember "the 3.5" screen is the perfect size" dribble that Apple fanboys used to subscribe to.
Kariya
macrumors 68000
I have a Moto X and a 6 Plus. Using the 6 Plus display is far more delightful in my opinion...especially in bright sunlight and i also won't get permanent display burn-in from cranking up the brightness too often and/or using light backgrounds.
OLED is great but its nowhere near perfect. Note 4 or not. And its expensive which is why few manufacturers are ever working on it
Will be interesting to see how Quantum Dot plays out
OLED is great but its nowhere near perfect. Note 4 or not. And its expensive which is why few manufacturers are ever working on it
Will be interesting to see how Quantum Dot plays out
Well imo, yes the blacks on LCD's are crap. If you cant tell the big difference between the two thats fine but i certainly can. Not to mention poor black uniformity. Light bleed depends on the panel you can get one that is great then the very next one off the production line can be horrible, even the better panels still get light bleed in the corners on off-axis viewing.