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Originally posted by jonapete2001
Apple needs to adress this issue. This is something the majority of consumers want. It 3rd party mice are so more conveniant due to the 2nd button and scroll. I hate using the keyboard for tasks that are much more conveniant on the mouse.

The one button deal is stupid and annoying. 2 buttons and scroll is not some engeneering feet that costs billions of dollars. This is jobs just being stuborn and i hate it. It is just annoying.

As I've stated in my other posts, I am completely tolerant of the current situation and the decison Jobs has made, so I am not really ticked off about it as some of you other posters appear to be, but I do agree - how much trouble is it to make something that is so mainstream and cheap? ProUser programs such as Shake require 3-button mouses, do they not?

It doesn't bother me, per se, but does confuse me....
 
I switched three months ago and have no issue with the one-button mouse. I had read lots of Mac users complaining about it so was a bit worried beforehand.

In fact, I think it has a lot of merit.

I realized how lazy I'd become as a Windows user, doing everything from the keyboard. Just sitting there slouched in my chair doing most things by click I was a mouse slob! (And still am)

Yes I get lazy when I plug the 2-button mouse in at work (I use it for VPC and it came that way with my wireless kbd and mouse). Altho I do try to use only one button when in OSX.

I'm sure the one-button mouse is better at preventing RSI as it involves more hand movements.

Also, it means Apple can have multiple "right clicks", eg Ctrl, Command, Option, Shift. So you effectively get a 5-button mouse!


So this switcher says, long live the one button mouse.

Altho I would like to see is the scroll-wheel added.
 
Never!

I, for one apparently, hope that Apple never comes out with a two-button mouse. I rarely use two buttons, and when i do I have a Microsoft Optical mouse. I know there are people out there that would add a two button mouse, external iTunes buttons, and other crud onto the laptops, but the powerbooks, especially the AlBooks, look soooo attractive because they are not cluttered with junk like your average PC notebook. I don't need, nor want, external volume controls, play buttons, and a PDA on my mouse pad (I actually saw it once on a PC laptop!!). A two-button mouse on the laptops would only lead to stuff like this.

The powerbooks look like a work of art. Two buttons would ruin it.
 
Re: Never!

Originally posted by bensisko
I, for one apparently, hope that Apple never comes out with a two-button mouse. I rarely use two buttons, and when i do I have a Microsoft Optical mouse. I know there are people out there that would add a two button mouse, external iTunes buttons, and other crud onto the laptops, but the powerbooks, especially the AlBooks, look soooo attractive because they are not cluttered with junk like your average PC notebook. I don't need, nor want, external volume controls, play buttons, and a PDA on my mouse pad (I actually saw it once on a PC laptop!!). A two-button mouse on the laptops would only lead to stuff like this.

The powerbooks look like a work of art. Two buttons would ruin it.

Very good point - Apple strives on its "minimalist" design - crisp, clean, only the necessities. I'm not saying a second button will add a huge amount of clutter by any means, but it does add something, nonetheless.
 
I once heard someone say that the blank areas above the left and right arrow buttons should not go unused. And then I would have to look at the keys to make I was pressing the right ones!
 
SideTrack

Try SideTrack (Search for it on MacUpdate) if you want right-click and scroll wheel.

With SideTrack, you can add a scroll "wheel" function to the edge of your trackpad and can map trackpad taps to right clicks.

This way you get keyboard-free right clicks and scrolling, without confusing the users who can't figure out how a mouse works :rolleyes: or needing an external mouse. SideTrack just replaces the build-in trackpad driver and adds a preference pane to control it.
 
Apple's laptops are slick and streamlined, without all the extra bells and whistles. While a 2-button mouse isn't neccesarily an extra, Apple's been using 1-button mice for forever and a day, and I doubt they'll be changing that anytime soon. I'll admit though, I was surprised when they killed the Happy Mac face from the Mac OS startup. THAT pissed me off more than any mouse.

And even if Apple DID make a 2-button mouse, would you buy one? As another poster early on said, it'd probably go for around $100.
 
Apple's stubbornness about the one-button mouse is insane and undefendable... arguments for "minimalism" and "ease of use" are laughable and antiquated, and completely negated by the fact that 95% of the world uses Windows, and they are all morons, and they can handle a right click :)

That said, Apple AIN'T gonna change this, so for PowerBooks, use SideTrack as linked above, and for desktops, buy a 3rd party mouse. The Kensington Studio Mouse works great and looks nice too.
 
Well, it's obviously not undefendable, seeing as it is being defended.

But maybe if instead of having two separate buttons on the notebooks, make two separate switch/sensor thingies on the one button with a strong axle in between. Then provide the option of that working as one or two buttons. It keeps the clean look, and satisfies both camps (well, maybe)
 
Originally posted by snahabed
Apple's stubbornness about the one-button mouse is insane and undefendable... arguments for "minimalism" and "ease of use" are laughable and antiquated, and completely negated by the fact that 95% of the world uses Windows, and they are all morons, and they can handle a right click :)

That said, Apple AIN'T gonna change this, so for PowerBooks, use SideTrack as linked above, and for desktops, buy a 3rd party mouse. The Kensington Studio Mouse works great and looks nice too.

Yah, but no matter what, there are always going to be people who like 2-button mice and find them essential, and other people who don't care and maybe even prefer 1-button mice. As you say, 95% of the world uses Windows and can handle right-clicking - but that doesn't make it right - after all, 95% of the world uses Windows - does that mean Apple should scrap OSX and go with Windows because "everyone else" uses it? Need I say more? Just having some fun... ;)
 
CoolSoldier

As I have a Powerbook I absolutely agree about SideTrack. It's a fantastic app. I hope Apple builds it into future trackpad drivers. But I only use the tap for right menu coz I find the crtrl-click on a powerbook's trackpad quite cumbersome (unlike a mouse ctrl-click).

Originally posted by snahabed
...95% of the world uses Windows, and they are all morons, and they can handle a right click ...

Me thinks that's why they're morons! They've become brain dead by point and clicking hour after hour after hour.

Windoze trains you slouch back and be a mouse moron, drearily clicking the hours away.

Mac trains you to sit up and get involved!!
 
Mac laptops will get two clickable buttons the day I buy one... I refuse to buy one until they do. Here are some reasons:

A) Its a hassle to carry around a seperate wired mouse (would have been a great opportunity for Apple to release a 2 button bluetooth mouse to combat this).

B) On a 17" powerbook, its really hard to reach and do a CTRL + click.

When I got my G5, the mouse was the first thing to go, its a pitty I had to pay for the 1 button mouse to begin with.
 
I hope they will never release a 2 button laptop, reminds @ peecee craptops, if you want 2 buttons just but an usb mouse
 
Buy a 3-button mouse for $20 and sell your Apple Pro Mouse for $30. $10 Profit. On the 15" Powerbook the ctrl key is maybe 5" from the mouse button. Really, are you that lazy? Also, there is some sort of "rule" for correct posture that a requires one hand to always be on the keyboard, if I'm correct. Apple is just incorporating correct posture in their design.
 
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