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When Will Apple's Macs Get M5 Chips? 2025-2026 Launch Timeline
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Yes, it’s important to remember that Apple pioneered the InFO-LSI “advanced packaging” that is used for UltraFusion—they were the first to use it in a commercial product (M1 Ultra) and the first to use it with TSMC 3nm (M3 Ultra). Both of these projects were complex undertakings, and both took time.
It’s rumored that Apple has some architectural changes in store for M5 Pro/Max/Ultra, we’ll see what happens, but optimism is warranted, IMHO.
People often don’t really grasp just how much Apple and TSMC have pushed the technological envelope—they are not alone (Nvidia and AMD are also involved, perhaps now also Qualcomm), and there have been setbacks and failures, but that comes with the territory.
No, they want somethig ready to compite with nVidia. The new M5 Neural accelerators on the GPU cores will give Apple the tool to compite
I'd get this, but with the M11's just around the corner I'm not sure. Buy now or wait?
They represent a tiny portion of sales because they are neglected.
I thought the "media" industry runs on macs (music studios, hollywood films) or did things change and now Windows PC out compete them in hardware+price?
after all, adobe is adobe on both operating systems
MacOS is still used a lot but Apple really doesn't want to be in the business of servicing niche pro market. It's low volume with demanding users who don't need to change systems for many years as to not break production workflows. The professional media market that can't be serviced by existing Macbooks/Mac Minis/iMacs and requires more powerful desktops with more IO is very niche compared to the rest of Apple's MacOS user base and this is exponentially true with the amount of users who need a Mac Pro over a Mac Studio.
Apple simply put resources into what makes the most money. The niche desktop pro stuff is a "when we get to it" attitude. Example how they did a 2013 Mac Pro and didn't update anything until 2019 and said if you want a desktop go get a iMac/iMac Pro.
do we really need an iMac, Macbook Air or Mini update every single year?
most people surely dont go "oh new processor I better upgrade my perfectly good device".
that's the realm of a few phone users.
The pro devices need to stay ahead and offer more so they could be updated.
And no I dont want to return to the previous 4 years between mini updates.
Watch seems to get a renamed chip that offers little difference for a gen at least.
Phones are bread and butter and will probably always push the tech forward as much as they can.
most people surely dont go "oh new processor I better upgrade my perfectly good device".
that's the realm of a few phone users.
The pro devices need to stay ahead and offer more so they could be updated.
And no I dont want to return to the previous 4 years between mini updates.
Watch seems to get a renamed chip that offers little difference for a gen at least.
Phones are bread and butter and will probably always push the tech forward as much as they can.
The chip, memory and storage sizes are based on the Mac mini & Mac Studio.
I am writing this from a realistic point of view rather than "wishful thinking"
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Asus 32" 6K is $1,399 and the base model Mac mini EDU pricing is $499.
Agreed, no we dont.
But what i dont agree with is paying the same msrp for a 2 years old product without any kind of upgrades.
For example, either reduce the price the second year or offer more ram or storage for the same original price.
But there's absolutely no motivation for a company to offer a lower price on year old tech unless the same company has released a new iteration which the year old tech is competing with.
From the producer's side, it is insane to reduce the price of their current line-up just because it was refreshed last year rather than earlier this year.
The only reason to offer a discount is if you were holding a lot of unsold stock and needed to clear it out.
Businesses aren't charities. Business are not interested in what consumers want as long as consumer keep buying from the business.
If you want Apple to have prices that you think are fairer than they have now, stop buying Apple products and convince a large enough amount of people to also stop buying Apple products. Unless you do that, you have no leverage with Apple.
i would love to buy an iMac with more built in storage but the prices continue to be skyhigh.
so instead i trade off and prefer a better processor or more system memory (less so now the base i 16 not 8) and then add cheap external drives. i have way to many external hard drives and SSD drives. the SSDs are not really much bottleneck in real world activities and slight inconvenience.
we get businesses arent charities but enough people seem to find value in what they sell.
i just get less headaches after decades of Window viruses and crashes. or fixing friends machines.
the hardware seems to last longer and get updates as well which offsets the added expense.
I never understood the mentality of a customer that actually do not want better products and cheaper prices for themselves and others and instead keep defending the money hungry anti consumer companies.
But talking about surplus, havent you noticed how "suddenly" there are boatload of sealed, brand new Macs showing at steep discounts on places like Amazon and others?
Do you really think that apple is not behind those?
Explain how sellers are able to sell sealed, brand new Mac Studios M1 today?
They could stop being so arrogant and do offer some nice sales every now and then to clear inventory.
I don't get it either.
It feels like a hostage relationship with Apple and people have become conditioned to love their captor, no matter what they do to them.
Stockholm syndrome basically.
thats not good thinking. If production companies start picking up windows machine , then their employees will get windows machines, and so their families. It will have ripple effect. Better keep them in the Apple ecosystem. Also less media production on MacOS means drop support for Adobe software and the likes.
We do not want to go back to "there is no Mac version of that app" , do we?
The new effect boosts sales and cause people to upgrade. like iphones, surely the 2024 iphone is just as great as the 2025 iphone but because its the "new" people get it.
I do like the longer upgrade periods where an upgrade really do mean a good jump, but the problem with that cycle is that if you are late in the cycle you might as well wait 6-12 months for the next big one. With constant upgrade you are sure to get something more in the middle.
M4 speedometer test scores 47 while my macbook 2015 core i5 scored 7.37 (6x faster) 💀
ironically, my macbook is pretty fast still
Adobe isn't going to drop support. Most people running Adobe software are doing it on Macbooks.
Like I said most media related work can be serviced their existing lineup outside of their highest end. The amount that wants the PCIe with the Mac Pro is incredibly low and they don't change workflows often. Example this guy is a VFX editor on Stranger Things with a 2019 Mac Pro. All of these shows will be using proxys so its not like his computer is struggling.
hmmm..I do not imagine macbooks can edit high end media stuff. Am I wrong?
what do you mean they will be using "proxys" ?
How do you think high end media stuff was edited ten years ago? Twenty?
A 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 was the most powerful machine made by Apple in 2010. Is a 2025 MacBook Pro more or less performance than a 2010 Mac Pro?
Well yes, you,ll need an external storage solution, but in terms of processing performance, of course a MacBook Pro is powerful enough. In most cases, it’s not really the casse of yes / no. More power means less time for tasks to complete, no that the task are not possible.
When Will Apple's Macs Get M5 Chips?
Right after my return window for a new M4 MacBook closes. I'll let you all know exactly when I buy one.
Feels like a bit of a faux pas to quote myself, but I'm just gonna put it out there that I just received my M4 Air. Expect the new M5 chips to come out any day now...
good analogy, I assume as tech progress, media becomes more demanding so is the software. I'd assume modern premier won't work on the older computer and editing 4K will be in slow motion.
As for timing part, you are correct but its quite essential, I assume a Mac Pro will breeze through 4K rendering, meanwhile a macbook pro won't have enough storage and the CPU/GPU will be cooking inside the enclosure. Got to use the right tool for the job!
thanks, no offense taken.
thats actually a very smart solution!