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iPad Pro When will IP Pro 3 be released?
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Last update was at WWDC 2017 so it seems very unlikely that we‘ll get any update before that. There were some rumors a while ago that the next iPad Pro is going to release later this year than usual because of it being a huge design update with Face ID and (almost) bezel-less iPhone X-ish design. So if these rumors are true and we‘re looking at a post-WWDC release, then September alongside the new iPhones seems like the most likely candidate as there are usually not many hardware releases by Apple inbetween these two events.
It would also make a lot of sense from a marketing point of view to present all new Face ID devices bundles together and not fragmented over multiple months, especially if there are some refinements to Face ID.
It would also make a lot of sense from a marketing point of view to present all new Face ID devices bundles together and not fragmented over multiple months, especially if there are some refinements to Face ID.
So similar to how Apple handled the 8, 8 Plus and X? Like, iPad 10,5“ and 12,9“ third generation, iPad X (screen size something inbetween) first generation? That would be an interesting possibility. Although I‘m not sure if Apple really wants to fragment the iPad line further (we have the current low-end iPad, the two iPad Pros, and the „old“ iPad Air 1/2 line and iPad Mini line; a separate iPad X line above that might create more confusion).
My hope is that they’ll keep both screen sizes but shrink the bezels down and implement Face ID. On the other hand, Touch ID is really useful on the iPads, more than on the phone because so often, the iPad just lays flat on a table and I would want to rise it up all the time, especially the big one.
Nah I would expect both 10.5 and 12.9 to get Face ID
Then the lower priced iPad released next month
Think June is likely given the rumours
I think there will also be a price increase for the iPad Pro with Face ID, I’m hoping WWDC in June like last year but that may of just been a one off and Apple move back to either September or October.
If there isn’t an event in March of April and they just announce some new stuf via a press release I think it’s most likely we will see some new products at WWDC as well, maybe they will also announce the 13” version of the MacBook to replace the Air and the 12” version drops in price, alongside it the iPad Pro with Face ID. Just guessing here but that’s what I would like to see.
My theory? They haven’t been on 1 year cycles the last couple updates. More like 18 months. So I’m thinking Apple realizes we’re hitting a wall here where they don’t need to be updated yearly like clockwork and that they need to save their big features for larger updates to make people with existing iPads wanna upgrade. ESPECIALLY if the rumors about an iPad X are true, this is gonna be huge for the tablet category
I don’t even think September. I think we’re looking at November. September will be an iPhone and Apple Watch series 4 release so they’ll wanna ride that momentum for a couple months and when excitement slows down, ipad X will come in November and give people something to talk about again.
Apple is good at timing waves of excitement and periods of blah. It’s how they’ve managed to get billions on free pr. Count on a fall release for iPad X as well as Mac with Face ID
I don’t even think September. I think we’re looking at November. September will be an iPhone and Apple Watch series 4 release so they’ll wanna ride that momentum for a couple months and when excitement slows down, ipad X will come in November and give people something to talk about again.
Apple is good at timing waves of excitement and periods of blah. It’s how they’ve managed to get billions on free pr. Count on a fall release for iPad X as well as Mac with Face ID
I'd expect an announcement at WWDC. While it might be possible for a delay for the actual product i.e. September, I'd expect that to be unlikely. You know how you have those people who spend like 2 grand on a game to be better than everybody else? Well, you have those folks who buy every Apple product, and Apple wants them to spend for an iPad Pro in June/July so they'll have more money ready for a new iPhone that comes out in September/October time frame.
So Apple is catering to the Apple Whale. Hahaha, I just coined a new term, look at me!
So Apple is catering to the Apple Whale. Hahaha, I just coined a new term, look at me!
Eh I don‘t think that‘s how it works. The iPads have (except for the very first one in 2010) always been announced relatively close to their release, there‘s no reason to announce them many months in advance which would only take away from sales of the current iPads. If Apple releases them in September or later, then that is most likely when they are gonna announce them aswell, side by side with the new iPhones. A WWDC announcement is only gonna happen if they are able to release them shortly after.
Also Apple hasn‘t been afraid in the past to let big hardware releases coincide. Those who can and want to afford both products will do that, and for those who don‘t, having one of the products announced a few months in advance is not gonna make a difference. Most people don‘t upgrade their iPhones and their iPad Pros each year.
i agree that they will likely get it at some point but I won't be shocked if its not this year. they might focus on storage and the display first. those seem more useful to more users. face id might wait until the 4th gen
Actually, I think that's pretty much how it works. Apple may not be "afraid" to release an iPad alongside and iPhone, but I'm pretty sure they NEVER HAVE done so (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, Apple isn't "afraid" to release anything, but they are a business designed to make as much money as possible. Finally, Apple has released a product at WWDC over the past 4 years. I think that's EXACTLY how it works, and I also think that's EXACTLY how it will continue to work.
- the iPad 4th generation was announced in October 2012 and released shortly after, very closely to the iPhone launch
- the first iPad Air was announced, once again, in October 2013 and released on the 1st of November
- the iPad Air 2 was announced in October 2014 and could be ordered the same month
All these releases happened just weeks apart from the iPhone launch in the respective year.
Also regarding your „they are a business designed to make as much money as possible“-point: this is very true, and it‘s another reason why an announcement at WWDC and release post-September is very unlikely. Because it would mean that almost nobody would buy the current iPad Pros inbetween WWDC and September.
The only products Apple likes to present months in advance are first-generation products (the first Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone, etc.) because it gets people excited and shows the public and the developer world which direction Apple wants to go. On a mid-generation update it doesn‘t make much sense for Apple business-wise to present a new gen half a year before it can be purchased.
Wow, you're really fixated on WWDC announcement with possibility of September release, huh? Didn't you see where I said that's unlikely? You are basically saying the same thing I said but with lots more words. It's kind of weird how you either didn't see "unlikely" or you just sorta ignored it.
October release is possible, but if they don't announce and release close to WWDC then I'm Mickey Mouse.
Edit: after reading through the conversation again, you said it‘s possible but unlikely, to which I responded it won‘t happen and that this is not how it works. To this, you retaliated by saying it‘s definitely how it works, and when I contradict you again, then I‘m somehow the one who is „fixated“ on that statement? You went from „possible but unlikely“ to „this is exactly how it works“ within two messages. Talk about fixated
That said I generally don‘t believe in a WWDC announcement this year and don‘t think a September-November release is out of question as you were suggesting, seeing as it has happened in the past and seeing as bigger redesigns often resulted in an above-average time between releases (2016 MBP release, first iPad Pro, etc.).
Outside of that I just picked you up on your „correct me if I‘m wrong“-part and corrected you where you were wrong in terms of simultaneous iPhone/iPad releases never happening in the past
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Last year the iPad Pro's were announced and released at WWDC, they could do something similar this year especially if we get no March-April event and it's just a press release.
Another thing to consider is that the new iPad Pros are strongly rumored to feature the iPhone X design and Face ID. For many people, this is a huge appeal about the new devices, and releasing the iPad Pros around WWDC would mean introducing a new device that‘s cheaper than the iPhone X but has most of the same appealing new featureset. For people looking for Face ID, there would suddenly be an option for just little more than half the price of the X.
My guess is that Apple doesn‘t want to do that and wants to keep Face ID/bezel-less design exclusive to the X until the new iPhones arrive. That way, we would have the iPhone X as the Face ID/bezelless-design flagship device for an entire year, and would have it superseded by a much more expanded Face ID lineup, as opposed to having a much cheaper Face ID device introduced halfway through the iPhone X lifespan, and then some more Face ID iPhones a little later. Remember, the new iPhones are supposed to feature a cheaper 6.1“ mid-tier model aswell with Face ID and X-design, so an iPad would fit nicely into that.
My guess is that Apple doesn‘t want to do that and wants to keep Face ID/bezel-less design exclusive to the X until the new iPhones arrive. That way, we would have the iPhone X as the Face ID/bezelless-design flagship device for an entire year, and would have it superseded by a much more expanded Face ID lineup, as opposed to having a much cheaper Face ID device introduced halfway through the iPhone X lifespan, and then some more Face ID iPhones a little later. Remember, the new iPhones are supposed to feature a cheaper 6.1“ mid-tier model aswell with Face ID and X-design, so an iPad would fit nicely into that.
I hear what you’re saying however, I really can’t see Apple pricing such an iPad that much lower than the X’s £999 price point.
I hope not but I‘m afraid you might be right.
I guess it depends on what else we see on the new iPad Pros. I think a huge factor of the iPhone X price is the OLED screen? And not just any OLED screen but one of the best out there, with excellent viewing angles, resolution and a unique shape. With the iPad Pros, it‘s likely that Apple will stay with LCD screens for at least another year (no 120Hz OLED screens, as far as I‘m aware?) so one of the biggest price factors of the new iPhone X would be out of the race. Maybe the screen still costs more than before because of rounded edges and such (if they are even a possibility with LCD panels) but I don‘t think it will be the same price increase as the X.
The Face ID sensors can contribute to a higher price factor, but outside of that we‘ll have to wait and see. On the other hand the home button and Touch ID wouldn’t need to be manufactured anymore for the new iPads. Also unlike with the X, Apple wouldn‘t need to change too much about the iPad internals for the new design to work which was certainly another reason for the price increase on the X.
Ok I‘m sorry I might not have remembered the „unlikely“-part, I remembered this to be your original statement which your „they are a business“-argument seemed to be directed towards so in that case feel free to ignore the last two paragraphs of my previous post. Seeing as you contradicted to my first post with „that‘s pretty much how it works“ without specifying which part of my comment that was directed towards, I find it a pretty understandable mistake, I thought you were still arguing against what I said before that
That said I generally don‘t believe in a WWDC announcement this year and don‘t think a September-November release is out of question as you were suggesting, seeing as it has happened in the past and seeing as bigger redesigns often resulted in an above-average time between releases (2016 MBP release, first iPad Pro, etc.).
Outside of that I just picked you up on your „correct me if I‘m wrong“-part and corrected you where you were wrong in terms of simultaneous iPhone/iPad releases never happening in the past
Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in!
So I was right, Apple never released an iPad at the same time they released an iPhone (which is what you originally said was a possibility). I know that iPads were released in October, but as you pointed out, the last time that happened was 4 years ago. The past 4 years, WWDC is where it's at.
You think Apple will do something they haven't done for the past 4 years, and I think they'll do the same thing they've been doing for the past 4 years. I think that about sums it up. Gee, I wonder who's going to be right.
It's funny how condescending your first post was, which is why I felt the need to respond. In the end, I'd honestly have to guess I have like a 95 percent chance of being right about an iPad Pro release at WWDC. I like my odds.
Don't bother responding (or go ahead and do so I can ignore your response). Peace out!
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The current 12.9" iPad Pro with 512GB already tops £1000 so i can't see that being an issue for Apple, i think that if they add Face ID and thin down the bezels a little we are talking at least an extra £100 on top of the current base price. However i'm not sure if they will reveal them at WWDC, last year is the only year that i can remember where iPad's have been announced at WWDC.
You think they are gonna stick to the 12 months release cycle which they have done with like 2/3 of iPad releases thus far, I think that was is rumored to be the biggest iPad redesign to date aswell as the inclusion of Face ID and other X-features makes a 15-20 month wait more likely which we have already seen multiple times in the iPad‘s past, essentially whenever a bigger redesign was coming up. But yeah, surely the biggest redesign to date will allow for a much earlier release than all the previous ones, that makes sense
That said I would love for you to be right, I‘m just not convinced.But yeah our discussion has become a bit pointless, seeing as it has become a „I believe that, you believe that“ kind of thing. Piece out!
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