when will the 2009 be obsolete?

sparkie1984

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Hi all,

I was thinking today how long will it be until apple precludes the 2009 Mac Pro from the latest software updates, I think i am right in saying the 2008 was obsoleted this year so logically the 2009 next year?

any thoughts?
 

Zorn

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No one knows at this point, but El Cap was compatible with all Macs that were compatible with Yosemite, so the 3,1 is still supported. It will be something of a tricky situation with the 2009 MP, particularly ones that were "upgraded" to 5,1s, as technically the 5,1 designation machine was the top of the line Mac Pro up until late 2012.
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan

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Hi all,

I was thinking today how long will it be until apple precludes the 2009 Mac Pro from the latest software updates, I think i am right in saying the 2008 was obsoleted this year so logically the 2009 next year?

any thoughts?
You can use your Mac Pro with (random example) Mavericks, Office 2011, and Creative Suite CS6 for as long as you live if it doesn't break and if you don't need that machine to have compatability wth future file and web standards (you can buy an extra machine for that). Shouldn't let a corporation convince you something they sold you is obsolete just because they want to nudge you to spend more money. People still shoot with 60 year old cameras and use 80 years old music instruments. If you are creative you can do great things with any tools.
 

MacVidCards

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If the past is anything to go by (and it usually is) the 2009 Mac Pro will be difficult for Apple to shove out of the nest.

There is only one Mac from 2006 that can easily run latest OS with full support for handoff, metal, etc. and that is Mac Pro because you can replace GPU and WiFi and BT cards.

In fact it is quite likely that 2009 will still be running latest OS after the 6,1 is stuck in some older deprecated OS for this very reason.
 

neomorpheus

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Well, my Renesas/NEC card stopped working with El Capitan, even though it worked great with the LaCie USB 3 drivers on my previous OSX installs on my cMP 4.1.

So, the cMP wont be the limiting factor, but El Capitan could be.
 

pastrychef

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You can use your Mac Pro with (random example) Mavericks, Office 2011, and Creative Suite CS6 for as long as you live if it doesn't break and if you don't need that machine to have compatability wth future file and web standards (you can buy an extra machine for that). Shouldn't let a corporation convince you something they sold you is obsolete just because they want to nudge you to spend more money. People still shoot with 60 year old cameras and use 80 years old music instruments. If you are creative you can do great things with any tools.
People can also still boot up their Apple II systems and continue to use AppleWorks.
 

pastrychef

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Well, my Renesas/NEC card stopped working with El Capitan, even though it worked great with the LaCie USB 3 drivers on my previous OSX installs on my cMP 4.1.

So, the cMP wont be the limiting factor, but El Capitan could be.
New versions of Operating Systems can break drivers. This is a pretty common occurrence. The burden lies on LaCie to release an update.
 

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ScottishCaptain

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Can't imagine it'll be any time soon.

The 2009 is very similar to the 2010. They're not going to EOL the 2010 anytime soon. They're both full 64-bit compatible machines, and they run fairly standard hardware. From what I've heard from Apple internally, XNU isn't changing that much anymore so the driver interface for OS X is relatively stable at the moment. That being said, it doesn't take them much effort to maintain the existing kernel extensions for these machines, so there's no real reason why they would drop support for them.

Personally, I'm still running 10.8.5 on my 2010. Works fine, does everything I need it to. I don't really care if it's not getting updates anymore, because my home network is firewalled and I'm reasonably careful on the internet plus I have backups (and backups of backups).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you probably don't need to be running the latest software to have a useful machine. Apple would, of course, like you to believe otherwise, because that's what makes them so profitable. Life does get exceptionally simple once you put your foot down and decide that you're happy with what you've got (assuming it does everything you need it to, which my machine does).

-SC
 

bax2003

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Can't imagine it'll be any time soon.

The 2009 is very similar to the 2010. They're not going to EOL the 2010 anytime soon. They're both full 64-bit compatible machines, and they run fairly standard hardware. From what I've heard from Apple internally, XNU isn't changing that much anymore so the driver interface for OS X is relatively stable at the moment. That being said, it doesn't take them much effort to maintain the existing kernel extensions for these machines, so there's no real reason why they would drop support for them.

Personally, I'm still running 10.8.5 on my 2010. Works fine, does everything I need it to. I don't really care if it's not getting updates anymore, because my home network is firewalled and I'm reasonably careful on the internet plus I have backups (and backups of backups).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you probably don't need to be running the latest software to have a useful machine. Apple would, of course, like you to believe otherwise, because that's what makes them so profitable. Life does get exceptionally simple once you put your foot down and decide that you're happy with what you've got (assuming it does everything you need it to, which my machine does).

-SC
Off Topic:
Is this correct from your signature: 5970 GPU ?
 

ScottishCaptain

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Off Topic:
Is this correct from your signature: 5970 GPU ?
Whoops, never noticed that before.

When I wrote that signature I meant the ATI 5870, which was the card my machine shipped with. That's sitting in my closet now, I've been running an eVGA 680 GTX Mac Edition for a couple of years.

-SC