When will the 9600M GT get upgraded?

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  1. jiE macrumors regular

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    Hello. It used to be around the summer period that the new mobile GPUs arrive, but I haven't heard anything, considering the 9600 has been in the MBP for almost a year now. When will nVidia launch the new series?
     
  2. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Considering they just refreshed the notebook line .. probably not until late winter would be my guess.
     
  3. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    Apple kept their last two GPUs for 1.5 and 1.2 years, respectively.

    Do NOT expect a change to the GPU before the Arrandale MacBook Pros.
     
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  5. Machinima macrumors newbie

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    Apple cant even cool the 9600M GT properly, so they underclock it and reduce its performance purposely by about 25%, so dont expect them to put anything more powerful in any time soon, until a completely new laptop range is released with better cooling.
     
  6. Kevenly macrumors regular

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    Machinima,

    I'm interested in reading more about this 25% underclocking, if you've got a link to your source for that info handy.
     
  7. iLog.Genius macrumors 601

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    Ahh...there was a discussion awhile back on the forum. The clock of the 9600M GT was lowered compared to nVidia spec I think 500MHz (nVidia spec) vs. 390MHz or something (Apple spec). Now that just tells part of the story and doesn't necessarily mean it is underclocked. Someone could probably come and expand on my post or something.
     
  8. Machinima macrumors newbie

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    GPU-Z 9600M GT Graphics Card Information:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
    Core Clock: 500 MHz
    Shader Clock: 1250 MHz
    Memory Clock: 792 MHz x2

    Benchmarked Reality in Apple Macbook Pro:
    Core Clock: 393 MHz
    Shader Clock: 785 MHz
    Memory Clock: 700 MHz x2

    See, its underclocked by 25%, i ran the benchmark on two Macbook Pro's to be sure, and both came back with exactly the same result, also other people on this forum have done it before too. You can use software to overclock it back to its original clocking speed, and so far after 6 months ive noticed no negative effects other than the fans running at full speed all the time when im gaming in Windows.
     
  9. psyichic macrumors newbie

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    Probably to help reduce overall temperature and fan speed, thus increasing battery life. In any case overclocking them again is simple. Driver's can easily override a BIOS clock so there is no worry to be had.

    I have actually heard that the 9600M GT in the Macbook pros perform better then their PC cousins. Regardless it doesn't really make that big a difference does it?
     
  10. Shiner macrumors 6502

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    The graphics cards are exactly the same. No they do not perform better than the exact same card in a PC. Apple is using 1 year old cards in their pro lines. They have really got to get their act together and come out with a real laptop soon.
     
  11. iLog.Genius macrumors 601

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    I can confirm that. World of Warcraft on a HP with slightly better specs on med/high settings runs slugglish/laggy than my MacBook Pro with the same settings. I believe that the HP is running DDR2 RAM so I don't know how much that contributes to the poor performance.
     
  12. psyichic macrumors newbie

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    I don't think there is that big of a difference when it comes to RAM speeds. The amount of RAM has a much greater affect on the performance. I would also think that with WoW the game is more CPU intensive then GPU intensive so it's hard to tell. It could either be related to a better CPU in the Macbook Pro (Don't know your HP's specs) or perhaps it is just faster in the GPU section.
     
  13. iLog.Genius macrumors 601

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    I guess it's the GPU then because the HP CPU is better than the stock 2.4GHz.
     

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