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woozor1

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Hi all, I am thinking of picking up a base model macbook pro 2015 13 inch and wondered if there will be another one released this year in fall or not? Or will the next macbook pro 13inch be released again around next march like this one?
 

TheIguana

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Hi all, I am thinking of picking up a base model macbook pro 2015 13 inch and wondered if there will be another one released this year in fall or not? Or will the next macbook pro 13inch be released again around next march like this one?

We are right smack in the middle of the current 13" rMBP release cycle. MacBooks have historically seen an update cycle of about every 7 months.

What are your computing needs? Is your current computer able to get your work done or not? Will a new computer you buy meet those needs for however long you intend to keep it? Don't just buy the base-line model because it looks nice, make sure it actually meets your computing needs.

Answering these questions and proceeding are going to be more important that what is the latest and greatest in Apple's release cycle.
 

woozor1

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So around october would be an update then ok. Im in no rush for one as it is not my main pc. It Will Just be used for media and traveling and some portable work. Therefor the base model is totaly fine. I loved the new macbook design also just a shame about about the cpu in it. And the 13inch being more powerfull and cheaper seems the right buy to make.
 

Cherrystick

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I'm curious about this as well. I was looking at picking up a top spec 13 inch for my new program that begins in September, but don't want to buy a new computer only to have a new version released shortly thereafter. When do the "mid-20xx" usually get released?
 

T5BRICK

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When do the "mid-20xx" usually get released?

Sometime after "early-20xx" but before "late-20xx."

All of this depends on the vendors having upgraded hardware available. If Intel can't release Skylake on time, Apple won't have a new CPU to go to.
 

Cherrystick

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Sometime after "early-20xx" but before "late-20xx."

All of this depends on the vendors having upgraded hardware available. If Intel can't release Skylake on time, Apple won't have a new CPU to go to.

Haha, naturally. I know there is typically a Fall update, but I thought there was usually a consistent date somewhere in September where updates were typically announced.

Indeed, going by Intel's words yesterday about their road map it may be optimistic expecting big updates come this fall or for that matter on the historical timelines of every 6-9 months.

So there likely isn't a big difference buying now vs. fall then?
 

NJPT

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Unfortunately, the processors that would most likely go into the next 13" MBPs are dual core Skylake U chips with vPro, and per roadmaps leaked 2 months ago, those chips (i7-6600U and i5-6300U) don't launch until January 2016. The slower Skylake U chips that launch in September (i7-6500U, i5-6200U, and i3-6100U) don't have vPro, which means they are unlikely to be utilized by Apple. Source: http://www.thinkscopes.com/2015/05/...-plattform-overview-and-thinkpad-speculation/

Even once the i7-6600U and i5-6300U are released in January, Apple will likely not have them on shelves in new 13" MBPs until after Chinese new year, which is on February 8, 2016. My best guess is that we won't see new 13" MBPs until perhaps mid-late February.

It also seems probable that the 13" models may transition from 28W chips to 15W ones, which is not too surprising since with Skylake, 15W U class processors will finally have Iris GPUs instead of Intel HD ones. Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/news/notebooks/37472-skylake-15w-mobile-skus-getting-iris-graphics
 
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Cherrystick

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Unfortunately, the processors that would most likely go into the next 13" MBPs are dual core Skylake U chips with vPro, and per roadmaps leaked 2 months ago, those chips (i7-6600U and i5-6300U) don't launch until January 2016. The slower Skylake U chips that launch in September (i7-6500U, i5-6200U, and i3-6100U) don't have vPro, which means they are unlikely to be utilized by Apple. Source: http://www.thinkscopes.com/2015/05/...-plattform-overview-and-thinkpad-speculation/

Even once the i7-6600U and i5-6300U are released in January, Apple will likely not have them on shelves in new 13" MBPs until after Chinese new year, which is on February 8, 2016. My best guess is that we won't see new 13" MBPs until perhaps mid-late February.

It also seems probable that the 13" models may transition from 28W chips to 15W ones, which is not too surprising since with Skylake, 15W U class processors will finally have Iris GPUs instead of Intel HD ones. Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/news/notebooks/37472-skylake-15w-mobile-skus-getting-iris-graphics

So is this something worth lugging around a 2009 17" MBP for a few months and waiting for? In other words, how much of an upgrade would this actually be. I've seen ~3-5% in battery life.
 

NJPT

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So is this something worth lugging around a 2009 17" MBP for a few months and waiting for? In other words, how much of an upgrade would this actually be. I've seen ~3-5% in battery life.

If your 2009 MBP is still doing the job, I would wait if I were you. As compared to Broadwell, Skylake will bring some battery life improvements (more than 3-5% in the 13" MBP if Apple indeed changes from 28W to 15W processors) and significant GPU improvements. CPU improvements will be negligible. Overall, when it comes to real life use, you probably wouldn't notice any huge differences between the current Broadwell 13" MBP vs. a future Skylake model.

However, I would be much more excited about other changes that may accompany a possible redesign: improved screen, smaller bezel, smaller footprint (or maybe even a 14" screen), USB-C with Thunderbolt 3, lighter weight, ? wireless charging, etc. Unfortunately, if you look at the direction of Apple's design, there's also a not insubstantial chance Apple may take away some ports/features you would miss: Magsafe, HDMI, USB 3.0, and SDXC. That being said, if you hate the changes in the new Skylake MBP when it's released, you could always opt to pick up a Broadwell model at clearance prices at that point.
 
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Cherrystick

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If your 2009 MBP is still doing the job, I would wait if I were you. As compared to Broadwell, Skylake will bring some battery life improvements (more than 3-5% in the 13" MBP if Apple indeed changes from 28W to 15W processors) and significant GPU improvements. CPU improvements will be negligible. Overall, when it comes to real life use, you probably wouldn't notice any huge differences between the current Broadwell 13" MBP vs. a future Skylake model.

However, I would be much more excited about other changes that may accompany a possible redesign: improved screen, smaller bezel, smaller footprint (or maybe even a 14" screen), USB-C with Thunderbolt 3, lighter weight, ? wireless charging, etc. Unfortunately, if you look at the direction of Apple's design, there's also a not insubstantial chance Apple may take away some ports/features you would miss: Magsafe, HDMI, USB 3.0, and SDXC. That being said, if you hate the changes in the new Skylake MBP when it's released, you could always opt to pick up a Broadwell model at clearance prices at that point.

Performance-wise my current computer is doing fine, the biggest issue is the battery only lasts around 2hours per charge. The other benefit of the 13' retina is that it is less than half the weight of my current computer. I was originally planning on getting the top-spec Air, but the lack of retina and force touch swayed me towards the MBP. I'm also planning to buy a retina iMac as my "performance machine". So with all that in mind, if I find I can't wait I'm not sure that loss in portable graphics performance will be the end of the world.
 

inhalexhale1

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I'm curious about this as well. I was looking at picking up a top spec 13 inch for my new program that begins in September, but don't want to buy a new computer only to have a new version released shortly thereafter. When do the "mid-20xx" usually get released?

The "mid-2015" were just released. You won't see another update until the winter.
 

Cherrystick

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The "mid-2015" were just released. You won't see another update until the winter.

That's what I wanted to know. Thanks!

Have you thought about changing out the battery?

I've certainly played with the idea. Until this fall I've never actually needed to carry it around with me, so the 17" sitting on my desk made sense. Ultimately I'm still planning on replacing my laptop with something more portable so the ~$300 Canadian for an OEM battery and labour (Apple won't just sell you the battery, it must be done in store) would just be money down the drain.
 

simon lefisch

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Ultimately I'm still planning on replacing my laptop with something more portable so the ~$300 Canadian for an OEM battery and labour (Apple won't just sell you the battery, it must be done in store) would just be money down the drain.
Damn, did Apple raise their prices for battery replacement? When I had mine done (in the U.S.) it was $120. Now I'm hearing it's close to $175 or so for something that literally takes all of 10 minutes (if that), however I do have a late 2011 MBP so the battery is not adhered to the body.
 

Cherrystick

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Damn, did Apple raise their prices for battery replacement? When I had mine done (in the U.S.) it was $120. Now I'm hearing it's close to $175 or so for something that literally takes all of 10 minutes (if that), however I do have a late 2011 MBP so the battery is not adhered to the body.

They must have. I just checked the site and the US price is now $179 for the part ($129 for the smaller models), excluding taxes and labour. Changing the battery on the 17" is by no means difficult, but unlike the 13" and 15" which just pop out, changing it in the 17" requires removing the bottom shell, unscrewing the battery, and unplugging it. A little surprising really, because RAM is considered a user serviceable part, and changing that is basically the same process.
 

simon lefisch

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They must have. I just checked the site and the US price is now $179 for the part ($129 for the smaller models), excluding taxes and labour. Changing the battery on the 17" is by no means difficult, but unlike the 13" and 15" which just pop out, changing it in the 17" requires removing the bottom shell, unscrewing the battery, and unplugging it. A little surprising really, because RAM is considered a user serviceable part, and changing that is basically the same process.
That's a ripoff for models that have batteries that can be taken out by the user!! For the models that have the battery adhered to the body, sure (although that's still a little steep). However for my 2011 MBP it literally takes all of 5 minutes from start to finish. Sure, I'd be willing to pay $100 for a genuine Apple battery.
 
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