When will we see an Apple TV update?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by Shiner, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. Shiner macrumors 6502

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    It has been asked before but I was wondering if anyone heard anything new in the rumor mills.

    All I want is an upgrade to the Nvidia Ion with Atom intel processor. It would actually be cheaper to make than the current ATV.
     
  2. rhett7660 macrumors G4

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    Your guess is as good as anyones..... Like you said there are threads already with the same question and answers. No one knows. :(

    Until then thou I will be enjoying my Apple TV thou!
     
  3. mohanman macrumors regular

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    Yeah I love my appletv, but I want an update. I'm trying to hold myself everyday from buying another format, and hoping, hoping that apple will release some update sometime soon.

    I don't want blueray.. I think the idea of having to "updating" to another disc is dumb. First I bought all these vhs tapes, then laserdisc.. what a waste! 100 dollars a movie! including Robocop special edition.. jeez what a waste! Then DVD.. that was more reasonable.. now blueray.. what the heck is next??

    Please oh please update appletv! e.g. 1080p, better streaming etc.

    Mo
     
  4. Ivan P macrumors 68030

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    I’m confused. You don’t want it to play Blu-ray, but you want it to play 1080p content? If you don’t like buying HD content from the iTunes store (I definitely don’t, considering my internet sucks) then Blu-ray, which is the only commercial disc format capable of 1080p, is the way to go. The Blu-ray discs you can buy today can have a capacity of up to 50GB. The highest capacity, dual-layered DVD is approximately 14GB. Movies in 1080p take up a hell of a lot more space than a standard definition movie, so DVDs cannot be used for 1080p output at all, Blu-ray is currently the only type of disc that is capable of holding enough content for HD playback. High definition is the reason why Blu-ray exists, and you clearly want HD content...you answered your own question about why we ’need’ it...
     
  5. pilotError macrumors 68020

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    I read somewhere that the chief engineer for ATV left the company.

    I hope he wasn't the only one working on it...
     
  6. jaw04005 macrumors 601

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    Really? I haven't read anything like that. Do you have a link?

    Maybe our fellow Macrumor member that's on the Apple TV team will comment. :D
     
  7. mohanman macrumors regular

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    Just because I want 1080p content doesn't mean I need stupid blueray. What about vudus HDX downloads? There are software/downloadable means. And this whole 50gb thing is dumb.. just another format made up by Sony which will be gone in the next few years..

    Mo
     
  8. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

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    So you want to buy movies in an mpeg-4 video format so you don't have to buy movies in another format. OK.

    First of all, nobody made you buy those previous formats, especially Laserdisc. That was about as standard as the MiniDisc. You're the fool who paid $100/movie when the VHS movies were maybe $20-25. DVD was a major breakthrough that fixed most of the VHS problems. It also helped make future changes, like Blu-ray, easier on the consumer. You don't have to re-buy all of your old DVD movies. A BD player will make those look better, and you can also purchase HD content on BDs. YOUR DVDs ARE NOT OBSOLETE.

    If you think some computerized format will change that, you're kidding yourself. MP3 at 128k was an awesome format for about a decade. So instead of buying the uncompressed CDs, you did that. Now you've got iTunes Plus, which is twice the bitrate and an extra 30 cents/song. So that's another format upgrade that you don't necessarily have to do. Hell, I have some old-school iTunes videos (when they were 320x240). They look like crap on a full screen. I can't upgrade them to decent quality, and even if I could it would probably cost me.

    If you want the latest technology, it'll cost you. At some point, audio will have some big change. DVD audio will probably be pushed at some point with "HD" sound quality, hopefully some of these advanced audio systems like Dolby Digital and DTS. CD audio hasn't gotten any better since the format was introduced about 20+ years ago, so we're semi-lucky that hasn't changed.
     
  9. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    Hell you can record your own 1080p content now with a thousand dollar consumer HD camera.

    The Apple TV should support 1080p as far as I'm concerned. I want to view content beyond the dreck the studios are putting out.
     
  10. brentsg macrumors 68030

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    ... Ripping on Blu-ray's potential shelf life... and Vudu HDX is your benchmark?
     
  11. mohanman macrumors regular

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    Thanks professor
     
  12. mohanman macrumors regular

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    Yep
     
  13. scotthayes macrumors 68000

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    I'm now at the stage that I would like to try :apple: TV but the current one is so old that it doesn't seem worth the money.

    Guess I'll just have to wait a little longer to see if they do update it.
     
  14. Tilpots macrumors 601

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    I hope he was fired. But I, too, haven't heard this before and would love a link to this information.
     
  15. mastershakess macrumors 6502

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    You have no idea what your talking about, do you?

    Blu-Ray is catching on faster than DVDs did when there were introduced and the price of Blu-Ray players and discs are slowly coming down. Blu-Ray is here to stay for awhile, get used to it!

    Internet speeds aren't fast enough to stream 1080p content and Vudus HDX take hours to download, any other smart ideas?

    I see you did your homework, hahahaha
     
  16. mohanman macrumors regular

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    Have fun with your physical media. Discs all over the house, scratches, people borrowing them (if you have any friends).. the future will not have discs anymore.. just like music. Have fun with you 20-30.00 dollar blue ray movies.

    Mo
     
  17. spice weasel macrumors 65816

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    I recently broke down and bought a PS3, to play a few games but mainly because of the Blu-ray player. I was very hesitant, since I didn't want to deal with physical media and don't have the means or the inclination to bother ripping Blu-rays right now. But let me tell you, the difference is incredible. If you don't want or feel you need a Blu-ray player, then don't get one. Just don't kid yourself that it isn't a superior format. Will it last forever? No, nothing does. But I think it will be here for a good while to come.

    To those who complain about the price of Blu-rays: a) shop around - Amazon, for example, routinely sells movies in the $15-25 range, or, better yet b) get Netflix. For the price of purchasing one disc a month you can rent all the movies you can watch.
     
  18. spice weasel macrumors 65816

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    Haha. Your post reminds me of those infommercials where they set up a problem that doesn't exist for most people and then try to sell people some piece of junk that will miraculously save the day.

    There once was an old farmer who, in the middle of winter, kept harping on his neighbors to start planting their crops. For months he did this, even as the snow piled up. Finally, spring came and his neighbors did plant their crops, and that fall they reaped a bumper harvest. The old man, seeing the bounty, rhetorically exclaimed, "Aren't you all glad you listened to me?"

    Digital downloads probably are the future, but that future isn't quite here yet. In the meantime, I'll be enjoying my Blu-ray movies.
     
  19. mastershakess macrumors 6502

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    Comparing digital music to digital video just proves my point, you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. Let the adults talk and go find a sandbox to play in.
     
  20. Keebler macrumors 68030

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    these are reasons why I went with BR. I love the convenience of my ATV, but the only digital movie I've seen come close to BR's 1080p was a BR rip of the Quantum of Solace at 720p. It look and sounded amazing - but that was a 6+GB file.

    The challenge I see with ISPs is them putting higher costs for dloading more and larger HD files will have an impact on it. I was hoping to avoid going to the store, but after seeing the quality of BR, it's worth it :)

    Cheers,
    keebler
     
  21. jaw04005 macrumors 601

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    I dunno I would rather have a physical disc that I could sell, rip and convert into another format (not particularly in that order). Than a DRMed iTunes HD file that cost the same amount which I have to store and backup.

    Not to mention, Blu-ray is pretty difficult to scratch. You would have to want to scratch it.

    But to each their own.
     
  22. pilotError macrumors 68020

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    I'm not sure where I read it. It definitely wasn't an Apple related article, and I was surprised when I read it.

    Damn, I knew I should have posted it at the time, but hey, I figured the thousands of others would have stumbled upon it also.

    Then again, maybe I misread... Hopefully our ATV team member can clarify it.
     
  23. brentsg macrumors 68030

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    I could care less about the debate between physical media and downloads. I just think the longevity comparison is hysterical.

    Vudu could go belly up at any moment. Blu-ray's not going away anytime soon and if it does, you still have your content.
     
  24. mohanman macrumors regular

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    okay.. okay..

    Blue ray rocks.. you guys are all right. I wish I was as smart as you guys.... soooo smarrrtt!!

    .. totally right. Jeez. Guess I'll convert again, so i can be like you guys
     
  25. Tilpots macrumors 601

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    Oh well, if you do stumble upon it, please let us know. Who is this ATV team member you speak of?
     

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