Apple sometimes make sense, like standardizing on one port. For years average computer users got frustrated on having to know what type of connector they needed - and oh you have to look to see which way it goes into the port. So Apple goes all in on the Thunderbolt 3/USB Type-C port, fixing that problem long term and some of you are complaining about dongles? In a couple years, you won't need dongles. Then Apple doesn't make sense. Like $1,999 for a 15" MBP that has a 3-year-old chips. Sure it's a "2015 model" but it's using the same chip set that was in the 2014 15" MBP. It's at the bottom of the page as sort of a token "oh you don't want to spend over $2,000 for a 15-inch screen? Buy an old model that's not quite as expensive." And even the 2015 15" MBP is way too pricey at $1,999. The entry-level 2017 15" MBP is $100 cheaper than the high-end 2006 15" MBP (when the MBP was first introduced at Macworld). Not everyone buying a MBP wants to spend a fortune just to end up with a 13" screen. And the 13" MBP has gotten more expensive (unnecessarily) too. There was a time where spec for spec MBPs were just a little bit more than the competition. Of course you were getting excellent build quality and better software for that extra $$$. I look at the price of the 2017 15" MBP compared to the competition and Apple's not even being competitive. They're price gouging. Sorry for my rant but that's just the way I feel.