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Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by akadmon, Nov 11, 2006.
I hope not in China
What is wrong with Hon Hai?
They are one of Apple's oldest subcontractors, at least we have had Foxconn stamped of Apple parts for decades.
My Mac Pro was made in California. As are most of them, except possibly for the one's in Europe, I'm not quite sure.
According to Coconut Identity Card, mine was manufactured in Cork, Ireland.
The track record of the Apple laptops with the "Made in China" label does not inspire confidence, is all
I read somewhere today that at least some Mac Pros are made in Ireland. Wish this were true... When it comes to complex electronic toys, I'd much rather buy something made by a person who can actually read English than by someone who just left a rice paddy a week earlier. I'm weird that way
i think you will find final assembly in Cork and CA (and likely not by Apple either), with Foxconn making a good chunk of the machine.
With all their recent success (clearly linked to the Intel switch), Apple's laptops are finally becoming a commodity product. I see that as a negative development in terms of product quality. With far fewer Mac Pros being made (and, as I now know, their being put together by people who actually own computers themselves!), chances are a lot more time is spent making sure the Mac Pro works as advertised before it is sold than is the case with the MBP.
I currently find myself in the precarious spot, sitting atop the fence post where three fences in the Apple orchard come together: the MBP (my first choice), the 24" iMac (nice, but it's still carries the stigma of a mass produced consumer toy) and the Mac Pro. The more I think about it, the more it looks like spending a few hundred $ more on a Mac Pro & a decent monitor may be best for me in the long run.
mine shipped from CA
"I read somewhere today that at least some Mac Pros are made in Ireland. Wish this were true... When it comes to complex electronic toys, I'd much rather buy something made by a person who can actually read English than by someone who just left a rice paddy a week earlier. I'm weird that way".
Good grief. All Chinese "have just left the paddy fields". have they not?! What a shocking comment. I think it may have something to do with China overtaking the US in the next few years in terms of GDP and productivity....
Anyway, back on topic, mine has shipped but has a long delivery time.... so could be from China
One of the inside pics of the MacPro showed a Foxconn sticker inside, so China or Taiwan.
The BTO machines for the US and Canada are assembled and shipped out of a facility in Fullerton, CA. Don't know if it is an Apple owned place, from the looks of it they've contracted out to a company there. Some of the early BTO MacPros shipped out of Apples Elk Grove facility too.
Countdown to the jokes about how things would be if Scots were making Macs?
Considering that Chinese learn English alongside Chinese, they're probably as proficient at English as most Americans.
It's more about the cost of making a machine that causes problems with machines. It's pretty much an echo of U.S. history where people here were being pushed to work without regard to their needs. When you cut corners in the manufacturing process, it has to show up somewhere, and it's usually when the consumer gets it. Remember that "Made in the U.S.A." doesn't inspire confidence in most of the world. We're known for making some of the most slipshod products anywhere.
It's not that close on the horizon
Especially in productivity.
If China had our productivity, the rest of the world could stop working and stay home.
Don't worry though, I'm doing my part by finding new ways of napping at work without getting found out.
By the way: as someone who builds computers for a living (to test components for a refurbishing company), I too do not want my Mac made in china like the iPods are.
iPods are pretty easy to assemble, but laptops and Mac Pros are an incredible b¡tch. I simply don't trust someone who doesn't have a tech degree... And you KNOW the kind of labor foxconn hires.
Yes, do you want it built in a sweatshop where they sweat long hours putting your machine together so you can save a few bucks.
Or a highly paid US tech who tends to fall asleep on the job, is nursing a hangover, or surfing ways to defeat the drug test.
Not likely, most countries teach english as a 2nd language and most people are still very incompetent as far as english goes... especially speaking.
But thats hardly a relevant issue, I don't care where my product was made as long as it works and its given the check by Apple, my PS2 was made in China dn its rock solid, in fact, it has lasted more than my previous PS2 which mas made somewhere else...
Why does it matter where it was made? You still get a warranty and a "good to go" from Apple.
I ordered one about 10 days ago when my G5 decided to kick the bucket. Apparently it is coming from Singapore.
If the savings were passed onto me, I'd go for it. Of course, Apple probably wouldn't lower prices so if it's all the same to you, I'll take an educated guy with a hangover taking his sweet ass time before some guy who doesn't even know what a computer IS.
I'm not against sweatshops morally or politically, btw. I just don't trust them around my computers.
When I drop a computer component, I throw it away and I keep my job. Do you really think they do that in sweatshops?
And what makes you think that they would be assembled by educated people in this country? One major strike against briniging a new Toyota plant to Alabama was the fact that they couldn't find a literate workforce and needed to use pictures instead of text. More importantly, regardless of where assembly is, the parts are likely going to produced in some Asian sweatshops. And in my experience, it is the quality of the parts, not the actually assembly that is crucial (why back in the day I found gateway to be unreliable because they would go for the cheapest parts; didn't seem to have anything to do with the assembly).
Mac Pros are not assembled in a "sweatshop" anywhere. It's not some shack with a tin roof.
Whoever is doing it is going to have training in how to do it.
Most of the internal parts and pieces are made in China. The machines themselves are usually put together in Southern California for U.S. consumers.
Mmmm...I'm not sure. Let's keep it real. The Mac Pro is the crown jewel of design in the Mac lineup. But it's a desktop computer in a tower case. Of all the Macs, it's absolutely the easiest to assemble at the level of the parts delivered to a PC assembly plant. It's far, far, far easier to put together than the MBP or MB lines. Even the iMac and the Mini have tight compartments and fit. In contrast the Mac Pro is just pretty much bolted together with plenty of room for everything... I have said it before, but I think of all the Macs available, it's got to absolutely be the most tolerant with respect to quality of the assembly plant.
Hon Hai (foxconn) in China/taiwan is DEFINITELY not a company that have sweatshops. they are one of Apple's Largest subcontractors. If not the largest. The company is actually from Taiwan. Hon Hai(foxconn) has over $2billion investment in China. The President of Hon Hai(foxconn) Kuo Tai-ming is the richest person in taiwan for the past 5 years. Hon hai not only produce parts for apple, but for other major computer manufacturers such as dell. It is arguably the largest IT manufacturing companies in the world.
one of hon hai's plant in china alone shipped 14 billion worth of IT products last year.
can't believe how many ignorant people are out there these days.
at least do some research.
... if the mac pros are manufactured in the US, your mac pro would cost over $10,000...
Why not? The PM G5 was produced in Shenzhen (southern China). And the G5s have proven to be quite reliable machines if you ask me. Perhaps the BTO machines are finally assembled in Ireland or Californa, but I guess most of them are already built somewhere else first. And the parts are coming from China, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore..
I was at a friends place, the Mac Pro's, or at least a good percentage are assembled in USA. if you want ill post a pic on the label
You miss the sweatshop jokes, you must remember the Hon Hai iPod sweatshop articles.
But Hon Hai did pick up the overflow assembly contract for notebooks, joining Asustek and Quanta.
So Apple did increase their faith in this subcontractor after the iPod investigation.
And I think they are the largest subcontractor Apple has, one that they have worked with for about 20 years.