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I have a couple of questions I was hoping a current Dev can answer:

1. Currently I am looking to download and install the iOS 5 beta on my iDevice (and possibly begin developing apps soon). I have a Win7 laptop right now and was wondering if I could successfully download and install the beta on this machine? I know that a lot (if not all?) of the dev tools require OSX to run, but I thought the beta might be different.

2. Say I am successful installing iOS 5, but I need to roll back to 4.x for whatever reason. Is that easy to do without compromising the device (through restore or other method)?

Thanks in advance for your help. :)
 
Nope. The UDID must be registered in the Developer Portal.

Thanks for the info. I guess i'm a little impatient. Only because i have never jailbroken my iphone and therefore have never had had the opportunity to use a good notification system.

Has anyone used any of the udid activation sites for a fee? I'm a little worried about what info can be taken from my udid/or can be used.

Thanks :)
 
Wow, for people who aren't developers...stay away! I messed around with the 3.0 beta's without being a registered dev and it wasn't fun. Sure it was cool to have the newest OS but with 4.0 last year I was sure glad I waited for the public release.

Could you elaborate on this?
 
I have a couple of questions I was hoping a current Dev can answer:

1. Currently I am looking to download and install the iOS 5 beta on my iDevice (and possibly begin developing apps soon). I have a Win7 laptop right now and was wondering if I could successfully download and install the beta on this machine? I know that a lot (if not all?) of the dev tools require OSX to run, but I thought the beta might be different.

2. Say I am successful installing iOS 5, but I need to roll back to 4.x for whatever reason. Is that easy to do without compromising the device (through restore or other method)?

Thanks in advance for your help. :)

  1. No. I just looked and the download is a .dmg file (Mac executable/installation file). It looks like it also needs iTunes 10.5 beta, which is also only available for Mac download.
  2. According to the disclaimer, your device cannot be reverted back to a previous version once you install iOS 5.
 
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Thanks for the info. I guess i'm a little impatient. Only because i have never jailbroken my iphone and therefore have never had had the opportunity to use a good notification system.

Has anyone used any of the udid activation sites for a fee? I'm a little worried about what info can be taken from my udid/or can be used.

Thanks :)

The biggest risk is if Apple spot one of these sites and revokes their dev account (which they could theoretically do as it's a breach of the dev agreement), you'll be dead in the water with a device that can't be downgraded to iOS 4 and can't be upgraded to subsequent betas: When the beta you are on expires your phone would be a brick until the official release of iOS 5

I have a couple of questions I was hoping a current Dev can answer:

1. Currently I am looking to download and install the iOS 5 beta on my iDevice (and possibly begin developing apps soon). I have a Win7 laptop right now and was wondering if I could successfully download and install the beta on this machine? I know that a lot (if not all?) of the dev tools require OSX to run, but I thought the beta might be different.

2. Say I am successful installing iOS 5, but I need to roll back to 4.x for whatever reason. Is that easy to do without compromising the device (through restore or other method)?

Thanks in advance for your help. :)

1. No - you need the latest beta of iTunes to install it and it's only available on OS X
2. No - you can't go back to 4.x from 5.0 betas. It may be possible in the future if someone manages to hack a way to do it, but it's best to assume it won't be
 
1. Currently I am looking to download and install the iOS 5 beta on my iDevice (and possibly begin developing apps soon). I have a Win7 laptop right now and was wondering if I could successfully download and install the beta on this machine? I know that a lot (if not all?) of the dev tools require OSX to run, but I thought the beta might be different.)

The beta required the related beta of iTunes to restore/sync. The iTunes beta is Mac only.
 
Thanks for the info. I guess i'm a little impatient. Only because i have never jailbroken my iphone and therefore have never had had the opportunity to use a good notification system.

Has anyone used any of the udid activation sites for a fee? I'm a little worried about what info can be taken from my udid/or can be used.

Thanks :)

Yes what information can be taken from my UDID? Can I roll back to a previous iOS if 5 isn't stable enought?
 
Could you elaborate on this?

What's to elaborate? Basically he's saying that as a beta, don't trust your life away to a flaky OS that while appears cool with lots of new features, is unstable and may render your phone unreliable when you need it most.
 
What's to elaborate? Basically he's saying that as a beta, don't trust your life away to a flaky OS that while appears cool with lots of new features, is unstable and may render your phone unreliable when you need it most.

Well he said he was not a developer, so I wondered if he encountered problems due to that (updates, etc). He also did not mention what kinds of problems he had, and basically made it sound like a beta is absolutely terrible and unusable, which I'm sure is not the case.
 
Ok so if say theoretically a ipsw download link becomes available on the net fo the ios 5 beta can anyone install it on their phone?

What happens once the official software becomes available? Will this conflict with the beta version and will you be able to update to the gm version?

i mean, i guess you might be able to. i'm sure apple makes you be logged in though to download it from their servers. if its on a torrent or someone re uploads it, i'm sure apple has some way of tracking it i really wouldnt do it if i were you. just pay the $100 if you really cant wait sorry.

in the "read me before downloading section" on the apple download website it says: "Devices updated to iOS 5 beta can not be restored to earlier versions of iOS. Devices will be able to upgrade to future beta releases and the final iOS 5 software."
 
i mean, i guess you might be able to. i'm sure apple makes you be logged in though to download it from their servers. if its on a torrent or someone re uploads it, i'm sure apple has some way of tracking it i really wouldnt do it if i were you. just pay the $100 if you really cant wait sorry.

in the "read me before downloading section" on the apple download website it says: "Devices updated to iOS 5 beta can not be restored to earlier versions of iOS. Devices will be able to upgrade to future beta releases and the final iOS 5 software."

Thank you! It sounds like a risk not worth taking if my Iphone could be rendered useless. I have in the past downloaded ipsw's from tech blogs but those were the gm versions available a few days before the official release.

So i guess i will have to wait (impatiently) :D
 
  1. No. I just looked and the download is a .dmg file (Mac executable/installation file). It looks like it also needs iTunes 10.5 beta, which is also only available for Mac download.
  2. According to the disclaimer, your device cannot be reverted back to a previous version once you install iOS 5.

2. looks like that was the case before.. but i just had to go back to iOS 4 because i forgot to register my new UDID on my account :mad: i couldn't see it when it was plugged into iTunes under iOS 5 cause it wasn't activated.
 
I don't know why anyone would screw around with a beta of iOS if they're not a developer. It's probably people wanting to go into school/college/work and brag about Notifications and having something others don't.

If I remember (and Devs can correct me here) if your UDID is not registered, you're pretty much screwed when the actual public release of iOS 5 comes around. Is your device not blocked, stuck on a beta which is doomed to expire?
 
I don't know why anyone would screw around with a beta of iOS if they're not a developer. It's probably people wanting to go into school/college/work and brag about Notifications and having something others don't.

If I remember (and Devs can correct me here) if your UDID is not registered, you're pretty much screwed when the actual public release of iOS 5 comes around. Is your device not blocked, stuck on a beta which is doomed to expire?

if your device is not registered, you can't even use iOS 5
 
If im not mistaken as long as your jailbroken with your shsh blobs saved you should be able to downgrade just fine. no?
 
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