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>Profanity???
"...CPRM - an almighty back-door mindf*** which would have rendered our PCs down forever to be dumb entertainment playback devices..."

I agree. There are some people who simple download mp3s and could give a rat's rectum about getting the CD. BUY THE F:eek:CKING CD! If you need to, get the mp3, but at least pay respects. (Actually I think no one NEEDS the mp3 any more than the CD, since they both have the song.) If you want the songs for a CD that aren't out yet, at least buy the CD when it comes out, so you can legally own the mp3.

As long as people follow these guidelines there should be no problem with P2P file sharing.
 
Blah blah blah blah!

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money. And the music industry? Heck, I'm not supporting that wreck of an industry. A bunch of sharks. And to think lawyers have a bad name. Blah, Bah humbug.
 
>Queeny, wheres Alphy?
He's roaming.

You want to go for round 2? I'm all for it.

If not, I can understand...too much for both of us. If so, at least correct your signature.
 
Easy there, mcrain. I can see you are on a role today. You're are now correcting people's signatures!

Chill and have a blue pepsi. :D
 

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Originally posted by mcrain
Blah blah blah blah!

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money. And the music industry? Heck, I'm not supporting that wreck of an industry. A bunch of sharks. And to think lawyers have a bad name. Blah, Bah humbug.
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To some degree I agree with you. I have Who Let the Dogs Out, Rock Me Amadeus, and a whole slew of one hits where I never intend to buy the CD. However, 90% of my 75,000 song mp3 collection is not depriving the RIAA of their "hard earned" 75%.

But for me, P2P was about finding new small bands. I listen to punk & indie bands which aren't overpaid rockstars. Most of them work menial jobs to finance their music. They exist (and somtimes flourish) without the "help" of record companies. I support these bands by buying their cds, and seeing their shows. P2P let's me discover bands I never would have heard of otherwise, however, the RIAA has stomped out all the unsigned bands it is unwilling to promote, right along with supressing illegal distribution of musical genuises Britney et al.
 
Rain

I have to tell you a little about QC. He is really into "iBrators." I guess him and Alpha like to send eachother pictures, and have some fun.

Now, he will say that I am "young and not smart enough for a flame war," but I am not the one that cant stay up too late or else mommy and daddy get mad. Ok Queenie?

He also has a thing for "slitherin" around in people's behinds.
 
Originally posted by mcrain

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money.
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I respect your right to your own opinion, but:

1) because I own the CD to the music I have in my iTunes Library, when the next version of iTunes comes out with support for AAC encoded MP-4s, I will be able to rip all my cds and have, not only more room on my HD, but higher quality copies of the originals. Even if they come out with a program to convert mp3's to mp4's the quaility will be crap compared to a straight rip to mp4

2) Music stars deserve to be rich, just as anyone else who is successful at what they do, who do something that many people want, but few can do. It is the law of supply and demand. Not buying a cd is like sneaking into the superbowl.
IMNSHO
 
Originally posted by Nipsy

But for me, P2P was about finding new small bands. I listen to punk & indie bands which aren't overpaid rockstars.
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The Internet is great for musicians who want to get heard, but have not been bought out by a record label. P2P is even a boon for them, so that they don't have to pay for bandwidth by hosting their own site. I have gone to some artists web sites and downloaded songs that they have offered up as samples, and have bought a few cds as a result of this.

I don't think all labels are bad. Verve Records is an excellent label. All the artists seem happy. Their web site is pretty nice, except that they do not support the Mac as fully as they could on some things (they need to use quicktime more). Last night though, I was on their site, found an interesting cd I had not heard of, and went out and bought it that night.

I don't see P2P going away. There is too much demand, much of it from college students. Enough of them are CS majors out there that there will always be a new protocol. It will not be long until they start using dynamic ports, which will make it hard for ISP's to block the traffic. Network Filters will have to look into the data portions of all the packets in order to figure out if it is P2P, instead of just using the tcp port number.
 
I don't buy much music, but every album I've bought in the last 3 years was from an artist I found using P2P software: Amiee Mann, The Strokes, Fiona Apple, The White Stripes, Bill Withers. I think that having the album, the cover art and the highest quality audio is well worth $15 for a truly good album.
I used to waste a lot of money on music - paying for 15 songs when only 2 or 3 were good. Now it seems like the albums I buy are good front to back, and I have P2P to thank for that.
 
Re: Rain

>(MacAztec)I have to tell you a little about QC. He is really into "iBrators."
I would not have posted such information. Alpha brought it up.

>I guess him and Alpha like to send eachother pictures, and have some fun.
If it's your mom... :eek:

>Now, he will say that I am "young and not smart enough for a flame war,"
I mentioned young and inexperienced. Intelligence has nothing to do with experience.

>but I am not the one that cant stay up too late or else mommy and daddy get mad.
I guess that means you get to stay up until 9am into the mornings, right. Don't forget, I'm on the east end, so time is three hours faster than time in your area.

>Ok Queenie?
That's fine with me, Asstec.

>He also has a thing for "slitherin" around in people's behinds.
The only way you could find that out is if you stuck your face in someone's ash. How many times have you don't that and got :eek: from them?
 
Re: Rain

Originally posted by MacAztec
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Dude, the name is mcrain... not Mc Rain, and shortening it to rain doesn't make any sense.

What's up with your little rant against alphatech and KC? I've had my run-ins with alphatech and his hot-headed retorts, but for the most part, if you ignore the attitude, he knows what he's talking about. KC is also a well respected member of these forums.

I know you guys had your little flame war, and all I can say is you're all amateurs. Grow up. If you want to flame, flame away based on the immateur level of the posts or the lack of intelligent discussion. This crap about iBrators and slithering in people's asses is just silly, and I know you're only a few years out of diapers, but good god, there's no reason to act like it.
 
Re: Re: Rain

Originally posted by mcrain
I know you guys had your little flame war, and all I can say is you're all amateurs. Grow up. If you want to flame, flame away based on the immateur level of the posts or the lack of intelligent discussion. This crap about iBrators and slithering in people's asses is just silly, and I know you're only a few years out of diapers, but good god, there's no reason to act like it.
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It's good to hear a voice of reason in all of this madness. :D
 
Back to the topic at hand......

Nobody has mentioned yet that Acquisition is actually running on the Gnutella network, the same network as Limewire and Morpheus. So, it picks up hosts using both of those programs plus any other programs using the Gnutella network.

Also, it is OS X native so it doesnt kill the system.

It has bugs, but it is much better than Limewire just because of stability issues.

Downloads move fast on my iBook using a cable modem and I have had good luck with it so far.

Also, it is a viable source for other media if you so desired.
 
iSwipe

It appears that i am a little late on my entry but....has anyone tried iSwipe? Its the only way to go for me. its kind of an upstart but gets worked on and developed constantly (maybe a little too much with a new version about every week). it taps into hotline, gnutella, carracho and even opennapter. some work better than others of course. well i don't want to break the law so i'd better stop. you all should give it a try
 
Ok, I've tried Acquisition for about two days.... a couple searches and what now. It's alright... like Limewire. It's worthless if your looking for something that's international...I was looking for Kpop. Nope...no Baby Vox.... I tried JPop...no Namie Amuro... maybe when everyone finally catches on...
 
show some sympathy ;)

Originally posted by mcrain
Blah blah blah blah!

I'm not buying a CD of a song I already have on MP3. Heck no! Music star types are overpaid as it is. They don't need any more money. And the music industry? Heck, I'm not supporting that wreck of an industry. A bunch of sharks. And to think lawyers have a bad name. Blah, Bah humbug.
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you're right about the music industy being sharks... but i have to disagree about the musicians getting their fair share. the artist makes next to nothing on each cd sold. they make slightly more doing tours, and that's why you see artists doing exhausting year long tours across the globe. i know electronic musicians that are considered "world renown" and still have to work a day job.

the artist certainly deserves to be compensated for their efforts... unfortunately buying their cd doesn't do that.... downloading their music and sharing it with a wider audience probably helps them more. that said, i probably end up buying a cd or seeing a show by 90% of the artists i sample from gnutella and hotline... besides classical stuff like mozart or folk/blues from the first half of last century which i consider to be public domain by now.
 
I've just downloaded Acqisition and I must say it's very good, however the reason it is good is because it appears that it actually uses the KaZaA/Morpheus/LimeWire P2P networks which are allready well established, this is why it returns so many results.
The interface is very nice though, I think I may give it ago for while, but it's gonna have to be somethig pretty special to beat KaZaA on the wintel platform though.
 
any of you guys tried out blubster on your PC's? I tried running it under VPC but it had an error of some sort :( My pc-using friends say that blubster is way better than KaZaa and doesn't come with all the spyware...

If you have got blubster, what do you think of it vs. KMD?
 
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