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Where is Lion Compatible Flash?

Dwalls90

Dwalls90

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There is no excuse, given how well and easily Apple has already embarrassed Adobe, for Flash to still be incompatible in many ways with Lion. First off, it's been a while for an update. Second, it's still not even officially supported by Adobe. As a major software developer, this is ridiculous granted Betas have been out since February! I experience these issues when it crashes in Safari, or most in particular I can't click "accept" when trying to video chat with a friend on Safari!

Sucks that I have to rely on Windows 7 via Bootcamp for this feature :rolleyes:
 
I refuse to load Flash on any computer I own. I want the websites I visit to know it's not installed. There's nothing I have to see badly enough that would make me install Flash. Flash just needs to die. Good thing iOS devices are helping this along ...
 
I didn't install the global Flash nonsense, but use Chrome instead which comes with a Flash plugin. Most videos also support HTML5 nowadays, and for the rest I just open them up in Chrome.

And I agree with OP: Lion developer previews have been around for more than 6 months, and suddenly Adobe figures out that their plugin isn't working as it should? Extremely unprofessional.
 
To be honest... The way Steve-o denigrates Adobe, I think it's hilarious what Adobe thinks of Apple. :D And I really don't blame them. We OSX users are the proverbial pimple on the elephant's arse when it comes to Adobe's flash priorities.

Neggers... click away. :)
 
Steve's Barber said:
To be honest... The way Steve-o denigrates Adobe, I think it's hilarious what Adobe thinks of Apple. :D And I really don't blame them. We OSX users are the proverbial pimple on the elephant's arse when it comes to Adobe's flash priorities.

Neggers... click away. :)
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Of course, billing yourself as a cross-platform solution and neglecting the number two platform is pretty odd.
 
There is a perfect excuse, Apple mac account less than 10% of PC market, so why would Adobe spend major resource to rush out a solution.

I really don't think Adobe care much about Apple products since the % of mac is so small and IOS devices don't even run Flash.
 
88 King said:
There is a perfect excuse, Apple mac account less than 10% of PC market, so why would Adobe spend major resource to rush out a solution.

I really don't think Adobe care much about Apple products since the % of mac is so small and IOS devices don't even run Flash.
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Because that tiny 10% accounts for nearly 50% of their (Adobe's) revenue?
 
88 King said:
There is a perfect excuse, Apple mac account less than 10% of PC market, so why would Adobe spend major resource to rush out a solution.

I really don't think Adobe care much about Apple products since the % of mac is so small and IOS devices don't even run Flash.
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Because they promised their developers that Flash is a cross-platform solution?
 
Pressure said:
Because that tiny 10% accounts for nearly 50% of their (Adobe's) revenue?
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That's interesting, I'd imaging Adobe sells much more to Windows than mac, got any links for me to read?

I never brought any Adobe mac software because I can get them much cheaper through work on Windows platform, I don't know any Adobe mac discount exist for any business in the UK.

BaldiMac said:
Because they promised their developers that Flash is a cross-platform solution?
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To believe any promise of a software company makes is like buying a lottery ticket, both have about the same probability of coming true. :D

I do hope Adobe get their act together and release a fix soon.
 
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BaldiMac said:
Of course, billing yourself as a cross-platform solution and neglecting the number two platform is pretty odd.
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Adobe only does what Adobe wants to do.

As far as cross-platforming goes... plenty of Adobe products make the leap to OSX and are maintained on a timely basis. Let's just hope Stevie-boy keeps his mouth shut about these. :D
 
I think Adobe couldn't care less about Mac users.

Sure, we may be 50% of their income, but I have an odd suspicion that deep down they would be just as happy to give up that 50% revenue if they didn't have to deal with "demanding" Mac users.

[As if expecting quality software is somehow asking too much. But since Microsoft users are much more used to it, I think Adobe feels they're easier to control]
 
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Daveoc64 said:
BaldiMac said:
Because they promised their developers that Flash is a cross-platform solution?
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It's still more cross-platform than its major competitor (Silverlight).
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Actually, I'd say that Silverlight works better than Flash.
 
Icy1007 said:
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Actually, I'd say that Silverlight works better than Flash.
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I didn't say that it works worse than Flash (I agree Silverlight does some things very well), but Microsoft only releases Silverlight for Windows and Mac OS X.

There is no Linux version, or anything for mobile platforms.

Hence the "cross-platform" comment.
 
I'm confused.... exactly what are people complaining about, now? I've been using the shipping 10.3 version of Flash in Lion for both Safari and Firefox, as well as the built-in version that ships with Google Chrome, and it works perfectly fine. Videos play (with acceleration), chat windows work, camera works. I'm using the 2010 Macbook Air running Lion.

So what am I missing, exactly? :confused:
 
Yuusharo said:
I'm confused.... exactly what are people complaining about, now? I've been using the shipping 10.3 version of Flash in Lion for both Safari and Firefox, as well as the built-in version that ships with Google Chrome, and it works perfectly fine. Videos play (with acceleration), chat windows work, camera works. I'm using the 2010 Macbook Air running Lion.

So what am I missing, exactly? :confused:
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Did you not read the thread? It's not officially supported by Adobe on Lion, and it does NOT work on ALL websites, such as those requiring audio or video input.
 
xlii said:
The adobe flash 11 beta has been working well for me on Lion. Much better than 10.x ever did on SL. Uses a much lower % of your CPU.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11/
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Warning - the beta does not seem to work well with Adobe Connect (adobe's version of webex). I had to go back to 10.3 to connect to my employer's server. I got a pop-up that said I needed to update the adobe connect app with "yes" and "no" buttons. Neither of them worked with the beta, but when went back to 10.3, they did.
 
10.3.181.34:
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beta 11.0.1.98:
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tested with: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
 
Dwalls90 said:
Did you not read the thread? It's not officially supported by Adobe on Lion, and it does NOT work on ALL websites, such as those requiring audio or video input.
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I did read the thread. That's why I'm confused, because I have yet to encounter any problems with Flash that are specific to Lion. Which websites aren't working?

I went to http://www.testwebcam.com and it loaded up my camera and microphone with no problems. I'm using Chrome running flash 10.3.183.5.
 
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