Seems to be missing. Mine is right at the top.
Yeah, this is pretty annoying. Could it have anything to do with turning iCloud photos on?
Turn OFF IPL Beta
SETTINGS > PHOTOS & CAMERA > iCLOUD PHOTO LIBRARY (BETA)
If I turn that off none of my photos are backed up any longer, correct? Is there still a photostream?
There is still a PS/Photostream.
So whats the difference between using that as opposed to icloud photo?
Honestly, no effing clue. That confuses me too. I like the old style Camera Roll/PS combo so I have it set that way.
I have no use for the iCloud Drive and to see documents/pics on my iPad (my daughter uses the iPad more than I do and I don't want her seeing some of the pics I take) and my MacBook as I don't have to have them on there as of yet.
So whats the difference between using that as opposed to icloud photo?
Photostream is only a limited number of recent photos. IPL is every photo. When active, ALL PHOTOS is in same spot as Camera Roll when IPL is NOT active.
Apple used to keep things so simple. What's the deal with putting beta versions of their services in the customer version of their OS that have similar functions to a current service? And then failing to explain to customers the real difference between the two. Not very intuitive.
If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. If iCloud Library is turned off, you have Camera Roll. Just like a camera. The pics you take, are on your device in a folder called camera roll. If iCloud Library is on, the main folder is called My Photos, because it shows all pics taken from any device in one folder.
Yea, make sense... if you don't think about it...![]()
Agreed. They've failed to address this in 8.1. It's a confusing mess and they need to cut the "beta" crap. Either release a service or don't. Don't use your paying customers as guinea pigs. Betas are for developers, not customers.It doesn't make sense. It should be called "Camera Roll" regardless of whether or not you have iCloud Photo Library turned on.
If you do have it turned on, it can be called "Camera Roll' because it would show all the pics from ALL your cameras (all camera equipped iOS devices). Apple is making some terrible design/naming changes that does nothing but confuse MOST of it's customers. I don't mean people in this forum but the average Joe. I think the fact that this forum has a ton of confused people with questions related to iCloud, Camera Roll, and a host of other things says ALOT about Apples design decisions. I've NEVER seen more confusion or questions related to any of their services.
It doesn't make sense. It should be called "Camera Roll" regardless of whether or not you have iCloud Photo Library turned on.
If you do have it turned on, it can be called "Camera Roll' because it would show all the pics from ALL your cameras (all camera equipped iOS devices). Apple is making some terrible design/naming changes that does nothing but confuse MOST of it's customers. I don't mean people in this forum but the average Joe. I think the fact that this forum has a ton of confused people with questions related to iCloud, Camera Roll, and a host of other things says ALOT about Apples design decisions. I've NEVER seen more confusion or questions related to any of their services.
That's what I don't get here. What does it matter what the folder is called? All Photos, Camera Roll, doesn't matter. the folder behaves the same way. It's just a name.
It doesn't make sense. It should be called "Camera Roll" regardless of whether or not you have iCloud Photo Library turned on.
If you do have it turned on, it can be called "Camera Roll' because it would show all the pics from ALL your cameras (all camera equipped iOS devices). Apple is making some terrible design/naming changes that does nothing but confuse MOST of it's customers. I don't mean people in this forum but the average Joe. I think the fact that this forum has a ton of confused people with questions related to iCloud, Camera Roll, and a host of other things says ALOT about Apples design decisions. I've NEVER seen more confusion or questions related to any of their services.
Camera Roll is only photos from the same device the Camera Roll is on (Pictures taken with that camera). And yes the Photos app is very confusing.
Agreed. They've failed to address this in 8.1. It's a confusing mess and they need to cut the "beta" crap. Either release a service or don't. Don't use your paying customers as guinea pigs. Betas are for developers, not customers.
I've NEVER seen more confusion or questions related to any of their services.