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It's been a few weeks since Beta 5 was released to developers. I expected a release candidate this week since the other OS updates were released last week. Seems odd since there are no new features. Wonder if they forgot about it!
 
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Exactly?! I’m honestly about to sell them off at this point. Apple needs to provide more updates on timeline and WWDC needs to impress. Otherwise this thing is dead to me as developers keep pulling out support with updates. I keep seeing apps lose support.
 
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The VP experience has been so disappointing. It almost feels like Apple has abandoned it or treating it a hobby (along the lines of the early AppleTV).
 
The VP experience has been so disappointing. It almost feels like Apple has abandoned it or treating it a hobby (along the lines of the early AppleTV).
It's only been 3.5 months so hopefully not abandoned yet. I do think they are too slow to get out immersive videos, which would keep some momentum going. The apps seem to be coming along, rather impressed that Microsoft is supporting the platform with O365 apps. I expect they are learning how people are using it (or not) and will adjust their strategy like they did with Apple Watch.

I didn't expect any significant OS changes until WWDC, since that is only 4 months after launch. Hopefully they can share a compelling vision of where the platform is headed. I still think of this device as an extremely expensive tech demo / developer tool. I don't regret buying mine but expectations for Gen 1 have been tempered.
 
I don't think apple chose the right way in how they handled the post launch experience. As I said earlier: VisionOS 2 better be a banger, or Vision Pro might not get the chance it deserves.
 
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I don't think apple chose the right way in how they handled the post launch experience. As I said earlier: VisionOS 2 better be a banger, or Vision Pro might not get the chance it deserves.
I think it's gonna be great. I actually agree with you, but what is WORSE is Apple dropped the ball about the EXPERIENCE of using it being like Star Trek (think: Tri-Comm holo commbadge/tricorder from Star Trek: Discovery or the crime computer interface in Minority Report)

When they launched the Apple Watch they referenced a bunch of watch stuff...including Penny from Inspector Gadget. That resonated with me because I grew up with that show. I got the original Apple Watch on launch day. They should have done the same thing with the AVP. The demo in the store, quite frankly, does the headset a disservice. It's so controlled and doesn't allow the tester to fully experience what you can do. Part of that IS because the hardware is expensive-but they have insurance for such things. I've given this feedback to the (apparently!) dedicated AppleCare team at their HQ. The rep told me the feedback was useful and appreciated. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a big change/push at WWDC to reiterate just how damn COOL and USEFUL the AVP is.
 
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I think it's gonna be great. I actually agree with you, but what is WORSE is Apple dropped the ball about the EXPERIENCE of using it being like Star Trek (think: Tri-Comm holo commbadge/tricorder from Star Trek: Discovery or the crime computer interface in Minority Report)

When they launched the Apple Watch they referenced a bunch of watch stuff...including Penny from Inspector Gadget. That resonated with me because I grew up with that show. I got the original Apple Watch on launch day. They should have done the same thing with the AVP. The demo in the store, quite frankly, does the headset a disservice. It's so controlled and doesn't allow the tester to fully experience what you can do. Part of that IS because the hardware is expensive-but they have insurance for such things. I've given this feedback to the (apparently!) dedicated AppleCare team at their HQ. The rep told me the feedback was useful and appreciated. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a big change/push at WWDC to reiterate just how damn COOL and USEFUL the AVP is.
You had me at Star Trek 🖖🤓

I agree. One of the first questions I asked even before we started the demo was whether I could load an app that I’m interested in (The Archive for Star Trek) or if it was a pre-set demo. So because it was pre-set I couldn’t try the app which was a selling point for me. They really emphasized the immersive content even though they didn’t have a lot of it. All that aside, I’m even more impressed with the VP than I thought I would be. I’ve been watching movies during the day and feel like I’m in a dark theater. The museum apps are excellent. I’m taking a lot more panoramic photos now. Just hoping for some useful upgrades and content in June!
 
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You had me at Star Trek 🖖🤓

I agree. One of the first questions I asked even before we started the demo was whether I could load an app that I’m interested in (The Archive for Star Trek) or if it was a pre-set demo. So because it was pre-set I couldn’t try the app which was a selling point for me. They really emphasized the immersive content even though they didn’t have a lot of it. All that aside, I’m even more impressed with the VP than I thought I would be. I’ve been watching movies during the day and feel like I’m in a dark theater. The museum apps are excellent. I’m taking a lot more panoramic photos now. Just hoping for some useful upgrades and content in June!
This is an under-appreciated advantage of the AVP. Panoramic photos appear much more realistic than on a phone, tablet, or even a good monitor. They have an "I am there" feeling, and you don't need a recent phone to create them. They require a bit more time to capture, but it's worth the effort.
 
This is an under-appreciated advantage of the AVP. Panoramic photos appear much more realistic than on a phone, tablet, or even a good monitor. They have an "I am there" feeling, and you don't need a recent phone to create them. They require a bit more time to capture, but it's worth the effort.
Totally agree! I think because it’s so simple with no extra app or hardware required, that people take it for granted. I’m hoping to see if they expand on it either at WWDC or with the next iPhone
 
that’s why I don’t believe in visionOS 2.0 beta at WWDC.
What I’ve read from Gurman sounds like it’s mostly converting the rest of Apple’s iPad apps to be visionOS native (such as Calendar, Maps, Home, etc). IMHO, those should have been ready at launch. But better late than never I suppose.
 
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Yeah, but we need AVP essentials. For example when you take on your AVP, there is no possibility to Check notifications from your phone. No matter the spacial computing argument - but when I’m working on a Mac and some notification comes in - I can grab my iPhone and check it. No chance on the Vision Pro.
Why is the Mac streaming capped at 60fps? Eye cancer alert. Why can’t we use AVP in total darkness unless we put it on in light? Why battery drain? Why no folders? Why no iPhone/notification mirroring? Why no iPhone unlock when Vision Pro on? The list goes on and on. We desperately need VisionOS 2.0… im not going to wait until 2025 for this absolute basics.
 
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Completely agree. Especially the lack of iPhone integration. I thought that by announcing it at WWDC last year, the software experience would be much further along. I expected it to take a while for 3rd parties to really hit their stride, but Apple should have nailed the basics by launch.
 
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Yeah, but we need AVP essentials. For example when you take on your AVP, there is no possibility to Check notifications from your phone. No matter the spacial computing argument - but when I’m working on a Mac and some notification comes in - I can grab my iPhone and check it. No chance on the Vision Pro.
Why is the Mac streaming capped at 60fps? Eye cancer alert. Why can’t we use AVP in total darkness unless we put it on in light? Why battery drain? Why no folders? Why no iPhone/notification mirroring? Why no iPhone unlock when Vision Pro on? The list goes on and on. We desperately need VisionOS 2.0… im not going to wait until 2025 for this absolute basics.
There are ample reasons to want Apple to do more to enhance usability, but eye cancer?
 
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It's strange that this release is taking so long, especially since as far as we can tell there are no new features, just minor big fixes/tweaks...
 
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I really hope they deliver next week with visionOS 2. So much opportunity to add basic functionality, native apps, and usability improvements.
 
I really hope they deliver next week with visionOS 2. So much opportunity to add basic functionality, native apps, and usability improvements.
I hope so too, but I am concerned. How can the visionOS 2.0 beta be coming next week if we still don't have visionOS 1.2?
 
I hope so too, but I am concerned. How can the visionOS 2.0 beta be coming next week if we still don't have visionOS 1.2?

It’s certainly possible. Not everybody is going rush to install the first developer beta of visionOS 2.0 given what it takes to roll a beta back and there will still be several months before the actual version is released so that gives Apple plenty of time to put visionOS 1.2 out there. Particularly if 1.2 will be what ships when they start selling it internationally or it’s put out as a zero day update to install if it’s a prior version that is actually shipping on the devices sold internationally at first.

We might even see a v1.2.1 or v1.3 before visionOS 2.0 is ready to go in the fall.
 
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