Where the heck is Blu Ray?

[Wolfpup]

I think Blu-ray will be here for good 5 something years. Untill ISP can give us faster downloads so everything goes digital. Things will not go digital for a while because it will take forever to download bluray quality movie.

Even more important than that are some of the other points mentioned above-including that you can't actually buy video online yet.

To most people the diffrence between blu ray and DVD is nothing its still a disk it all looks the same. thats the thing with DVD it looked totally diffrent then VHS.

There's a bigger jump between DVD and Blu Ray than between VHS and DVD, though there might be a 'diminishing returns' type of thing going on for some people.

I hope it goes all digital

What does this mean? Our media has BEEN all digital for YEARS now.

 

[kaiwai]

Even more important than that are some of the other points mentioned above-including that you can't actually buy video online yet.



There's a bigger jump between DVD and Blu Ray than between VHS and DVD, though there might be a 'diminishing returns' type of thing going on for some people.



What does this mean? Our media has BEEN all digital for YEARS now.

I assume when he means 'all digital' I assume in that one downloads all movies and television programmes off a virtual store like iTunes - aka IPTV.

IIRC it has been trialed and used in Singapore, but it would be interesting to see how well it would work in a market with large distances and large numbers of customers - such as the US.

 

[Scottcop]

If Blu-rays are dead in the water, how come a company like Pixar are spending a lot of time and money releasing their movies onto them?
Pixar are surely one of the most forward thinking and bleeding edge media companies.

HD downloads are years away (if that) have you seen the fuss ISP are making about torrents?
Compare todays HD downloads to Blu-rays, HDDVDs or even DVDs they don't nearly compare to the experience of watching optical media. (extras etc)

I think all those Mac guys that are saying we don't need Blu-rays are kidding themselves, wasn't it the year of HD at Apple a few years ago?
For the claims that Apple makes its an embarrassment that Apple doesn't even offer it as an option!!

 

[Wolfpup]

Yeah, and like I said, they've been late to the party twice before now

I can see where maybe they don't want to risk it when there's theoretically a chance that HD-DVD could have won out (not much one of...) but now? Plus Apple's on that Blu Ray...committee...thingee...whatever-it-is.

 

[pkoch1]

One Word:

Compatibility

I don't want to have to buy every movie twice so I can watch it on my Blu-Ray Player and my computer. I don't care if it doesnt look like 'full hd' on my 20" screen. I'd rather save the $10 of not having to buy the DVD too.

I feel like this is a very often overlooked argument.

 

[dmelgar]

3rd party drives work fine. not for playback, but burning is there afaik

I love to know if Leopard supports burning blu-ray out of the box. I know Toast supports it. Leopard's disc recording services mention bluray (and HD) as disc types. I wouldn't think it should be that hard to support bluray burning for data disc. I asked on an Apple forum and someone responded that it does not support bluray.

Has anyone ever tried an external bluray burner on Leopard?

 

[dmelgar]

Apple didnt skip it, bluray drives are still very expensive.

External bluray drives are NOT expensive. Newegg has/had a bluray burner for $278. And thats a burner!

 

[Wolfpup]

Players are over $100 less than that. And even the (more expensive) slot loading notebook drives only add $200 (before discounts) to Dell's new models.

 

[barijazz]

Blu Ray + Handbrake + Apple t.v. nothing else needs to be said.

 

[stainlessliquid]

One Word:

Compatibility

I don't want to have to buy every movie twice so I can watch it on my Blu-Ray Player and my computer. I don't care if it doesnt look like 'full hd' on my 20" screen. I'd rather save the $10 of not having to buy the DVD too.

I feel like this is a very often overlooked argument.

All bluray players can play DVDs. Compatibility isnt an issue.

External bluray drives are NOT expensive. Newegg has/had a bluray burner for $278. And thats a burner!

ya but you forgot Apple's 300% markup fee

 

[26139]

Huh?

Blu Ray + Handbrake + Apple t.v. nothing else needs to be said.

WTF are you talking about? What does Blu Ray give me on an AppleTV that DVD doesn't?

If the only reason you're buying Blu Ray is to rip it to an AppleTV (or rip it and convert it into anything), methinks you are wasting your money.

 

[Wolfpup]

All bluray players can play DVDs. Compatibility isnt an issue.


ya but you forgot Apple's 300% markup fee

I *think* he meant the opposite of that, that one reason you'd want Blu Ray on any device is so you don't have to buy two copies of a movie/show (ie one for your Blu Ray player, and a DVD for your laptop).

 

[barijazz]

How exactly? For starters the Blu Ray option would only be on the 17" model since this is the only Full HD screen, and then only if you hand them more money, and who wants to drag around that, and who wants to watch movies on a 17" screen, regardless of whether its high definition. And of course not to mention you have to spend $2799 for the 17" model.
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That's like asking why the hell anyone would spend thousands of dollars on a home theatre system rather than buying a $300 tv at bestbuy. Some people are more "into" some things than you are doesn't mean you get to push your angry **** on the rest of us. Some people like blu ray, but a lot of people can't tell the difference, but here's the catch... It doesn't matter.

 

[barijazz]

WTF are you talking about? What does Blu Ray give me on an AppleTV that DVD doesn't?

Quality. That's the reason for switching from dvd to blu ray.
I believe.
dvd="480p"
blu ray="1080p"

I might be mistaken but if I rip a "1080p" movie losing minimal quality, I will have a "1080p" image when I'm done.

If I rip a "480p" movie losing minimal quality, I will end up with a "480p" image when I'm done.

 

[barijazz]

If Mac OS X is superior, why does Windows have market share? The quality of something isn't dependent on how many people buy/use it.

You're right that's why all the cool people drive the beat to **** ford trucks while all the stupid nerds are running around in Ferraris. Thank you I'm enlightened now.

 

[jcb10]

Why buy things twice?

Why in the world would you want to watch a high-def Blu-Ray movie on a laptop screen? Isn't that really missing the point?

You don't travel much on planes or commuter rail, do you? LOTS of people watch DVDs on their laptops. As for "Why Blu-Ray?" I already have switched all my movie buying to Blu-Ray because I have a hi-def TV at home. I don't want to buy both a Blu-Ray and a DVD to view my movies on the road.

 

[barijazz]

Why the hell do some of you retards keep saying blu ray is not digital. Blu ray is digital There are two types of media. Digital and Analogue. Examples of analogue media are LPs, Reel to Reel, VCR. Examples of Digital are DvDs, CDs, Blu ray, HD DvDs, Downloaded media. Computer systems are entirely digital. Disks are digital. digital is 1s and 0s. Analogue is waves and... well... clap your hands... that noise is analogue.

 

[Wolfpup]

No kidding!

Apparently some people use computers with fly wheels and gears Ooooh, clockwork robots like those nifty ones from that 2006 Doctor Who episode.