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I'm a bit disappointed at the lack of streaming from iCloud. How would it kill the carriers? People use Rhapsody and Napster and the carriers are fine. How is it different from streaming tons of Netflix? Obviously it will eat away your data plan, but really what's the difference? iCloud is cool without a doubt, but "it'll kill the carrier" is a pretty weak answer.

When i am on a good wifi connection I can download a song in 5-10 seconds. I don't see how that is much worse than streaming.
 
How many GBs do you use a month? I'm guessing this is in the category of "only for unlimited plans."
Currently, I use about 6-8 GB/month listening to streaming radio about 40 hours a week.
I encourage people to use Plex if they want to stream their music from their computer. Not only that, but it will also let you stream just about any video as well. I've fallen in love with it. :cool:
 
Apple's streaming media patent was about performance issues for streaming service. That could imply both that they are still planning a streaming service and that they will reduce bandwidth requirements by relying as much as possible on local storage.

It is very obvious they are looking for a streaming solution. I'm quite positive we will have streaming in iOS 5.1 looking at the pace with which Apple is incorporating the cloud asset.

The only thing we need is: 'itunes play' like button next to the download button and there we go. Obviously, Apple is going to provide full fledged streaming with playlists and other stuff; so this is quite half-baked in that regard.

But nevertheless, Apple is one the right track as I see it. With all the labels, support, I guess Apple's in for it.

Also, forget the carriers, Apples very own data centres would be hit if suddenly everyone would start streaming. There's a reason iCloud is in beta for a while. :)
 
The big question here is.....Would you rather have better battery life and sacrifice storage on your device to hold all of your media or suffer a MASSIVE loss in battery life from streaming all of your media but have the extra space for who knows what?? who needs 16/32 GB of apps? not me.
 
Why didn't they include ____________?

Because it was an unannounced feature. It's something people speculated would be in here and they were WRONG!

Apple made the announcement Monday and it's not going to have features they didn't announce. To speculate why they didn't have a feature the someone speculated they would have is just kind of strange.

It's like we're rationalizing why they removed features that they never mentioned. And now some people are complaining or offering intelligent reasons "why not".

It's just a little odd.

Gary
 
Because it was an unannounced feature. It's something people speculated would be in here and they were WRONG!

Apple made the announcement Monday and it's not going to have features they didn't announce. To speculate why they didn't have a feature the someone speculated they would have is just kind of strange.

It's like we're rationalizing why they removed features that they never mentioned. And now some people are complaining or offering intelligent reasons "why not".

It's just a little odd.

Gary

I disagree. I think there are a lot of good reasons why people were rightly expecting some kind of music streaming. For one, Apple TV has no real storage and is a purely streaming product. Part of their business is already streaming media. Another reason would be the recent patent that was all about improving the performance of streaming content. And then there's the fact that the competition are doing it and that they bought Lala.

I would not be at all surprised if they added streaming at a later stage.
 
I'd be vaguely interested to see the stats, but I can't imagine for one second that 'most people's' digital collections are too big for an iPhone, let alone an iPad. Out of interest, have YOU got more than 64gb of music?

why, yes, i do. as a matter of fact, i have about 890gb of tunes :eek:
 
I'm a bit disappointed at the lack of streaming from iCloud. How would it kill the carriers? People use Rhapsody and Napster and the carriers are fine. How is it different from streaming tons of Netflix? Obviously it will eat away your data plan, but really what's the difference? iCloud is cool without a doubt, but "it'll kill the carrier" is a pretty weak answer.

To start with, these are third party apps. Apple would have introduced this under much speculation, promotion, and integrated in their OS. So way more people than you think would be using it. No ads, etc.
 
why, yes, i do. as a matter of fact, i have about 890gb of tunes :eek:
see previous reply. THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST 190,000 songs. there is no way in hell you have that many. maybe you have a lot of movies or something in there. I also want you to realize that not even the high end 17-inch macbook prop has a hard drive that big. LEARN YOUR FACTS! it's 890mb or you have like several hundred movies in there.
 
No sir you do not. Maybe 489 MB. 489GB would be around 80,000 songs. There is no way in hell you even know close to that number of songs. Understood? Good.

see previous reply. THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST 190,000 songs. there is no way in hell you have that many. maybe you have a lot of movies or something in there. I also want you to realize that not even the high end 17-inch macbook prop has a hard drive that big. LEARN YOUR FACTS! it's 890mb or you have like several hundred movies in there.

What if the music was lossless?
 
Streaming would suck.. it would be low quality. I'm fine with having all my music on my iPhone.. and then getting all new music automatically downloaded to all my devices!
 
No sir you do not. Maybe 489 MB. 489GB would be around 80,000 songs. There is no way in hell you even know close to that number of songs. Understood? Good.

see previous reply. THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST 190,000 songs. there is no way in hell you have that many. maybe you have a lot of movies or something in there. I also want you to realize that not even the high end 17-inch macbook prop has a hard drive that big. LEARN YOUR FACTS! it's 890mb or you have like several hundred movies in there.

So rude and obnoxious, and for no reason. Find another outlet for your anger, this forum is not the place.

MBP hard drive size is irrelevant. Most iMacs now come with 1TB+. Lots of people have their iTunes libraries on a NAS or external drive. Some people have all their music in FLAC/Apple Lossless as has been suggested. And some people just torrent all day and all night. Them having less than 1GB of music is unlikely, I doubt they're confused or incorrect.

You are not in a position to tell someone what they do or do not have.
 
So rude and obnoxious, and for no reason. Find another outlet for your anger, this forum is not the place.

MBP hard drive size is irrelevant. Most iMacs now come with 1TB+. Lots of people have their iTunes libraries on a NAS or external drive. Some people have all their music in FLAC/Apple Lossless as has been suggested. And some people just torrent all day and all night. Them having less than 1GB of music is unlikely, I doubt they're confused or incorrect.

You are not in a position to tell someone what they do or do not have.

I do hope it is lossless. The idea of someone torrenting that much music makes me feel a little sick. Though I guess your 500GB of music could soon be legal?!

I'm very confused about the legalese in this arrangement but I suppose we won't have the fine print to read until Matching is officially released.
 
No sir you do not. Maybe 489 MB. 489GB would be around 80,000 songs. There is no way in hell you even know close to that number of songs. Understood? Good.

Wow, you're arrogant.

What about high-res LPCM? A single album in that format can consume upwards of 2GB.
 
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You won't stream Netflix over 3G like you would your music. Streaming videos over 3G is a painful, horrible experience, while with much less bandwidth you can get perfect audio quality, therefore you'd be streaming gigabytes of music per month instead of that one time you tried to watch a TV show over 3G.

Streaming Netflix on Verizon 3G is nearly flawless. I've watched 60gb of shows with little, if any, difficulty. So one would think streaming audio would be even more achievable, perfectable.

Where does the information about crippling carriers come from (not explicitly in reply to your post)? I'm sure they'd like us to think data costs them a lot; I have my doubts. They make killer profits on calls and texts. How much does it actually cost them to provide the data they charge $15/gb +/- to provide?

So, I understand why the carriers wouldn't like it, but not if their dislike is based on anything substantial or just their desire to keep extorting outrageous profits from the American market.
 
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