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@fischersd - you do know ATV 4K has a built-in FaceTime app, allowing you to make and receive video calls on your big screen using your iPhone or iPad as a camera via Continuity Camera, right?

You can initiate calls from the ATV itself or hand them off from your phone, making it easy to connect with family and friends on your TV.
 
Re: The comment about keeping an old phone on hand to use FaceTime. @erihp Do you duct tape it to the top of your TV? :D

Some people opt to use something like this for the purpose of continuity camera via facetime, but i suppose duct tape could work?

 
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@fischersd - you do know ATV 4K has a built-in FaceTime app, allowing you to make and receive video calls on your big screen using your iPhone or iPad as a camera via Continuity Camera, right?

You can initiate calls from the ATV itself or hand them off from your phone, making it easy to connect with family and friends on your TV.
You failed to notice how I was responding to erihp on that topic?
 
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Some people opt to use something like this for the purpose of continuity camera via facetime, but i suppose duct tape could work?

Heh - yeah....I was thinking velcro would likely be better. :) It still seems ridiculously wasteful using a phone just as a camera.
 
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Heh - yeah....I was thinking velcro would likely be better. :) It still seems ridiculously wasteful using a phone just as a camera.

The advantage with the iPhone/iPad Continuity Camera is of course that you can hand the camera around... and you can flip the camera, and use the wide angle mode.
 
Heh - yeah....I was thinking velcro would likely be better. :) It still seems ridiculously wasteful using a phone just as a camera.
Many people have extra devices doing nothing. Just observe how many people have a less than a one year old iPhone in hand.
 
We'll see... our two ATV 4K from 2017 are still working great. If there is a negative issue, then it is tvOS 26.x that sometimes causes some sort of lag with the original remote; swiping one direction and on screen it goes backwards or nothing happens. Fortunately that happens rarely.
Anyway... I'm considering the new model if its performance for games is much better. And it has ethernet and no camera/microphone.

New HomePod mini's... mwehh... depends on its performance and price. The current ones work fine. Recently I found the right adjustments to enable AirPlay to all 8 of them. (Beacon interval 100ms, DTIM 3 is crucial and in some environments a lowered RTS/CTS value 2000 or 1500)


A microphone on my speaker and a camera watching my living room?!
Sign me up! I’ll provide some riveting material.

LAND_16_9

Just like the video's sponsor... Ugreen... their NAS devices apparently send all kinds of data to Chinese servers.
Links: NAS reaching out to China, and more here.
 
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Why don't you use the built in Netflix app in your TV? Why do you need another device?
In our former TV the Netflix app was rubbish. In the new TV it's actually quite good, for as long as the TV manufacturer cares to update it. Besides, we don't like the advertisements in the TV user interface and we don't want the TV manufacturer to know what we're watching: that's none of their business. I prefer my TV as dumb as possible.
 
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In our former TV the Netflix app was rubbish. In the new TV it's actually quite good, for as long as the TV manufacturer cares to update it. Besides, we don't like the advertisements in the TV user interface and we don't want the TV manufacturer to know what we're watching: that's none of their business. I prefer my TV as dumb as possible.
Not only that but the built-in system on TVs sometimes starts getting so sluggish you'd just rather not touch it. Or it has such little storage you can't really install all the streaming apps you want. Speaking from experience.
 
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They always had Ethernet. Removing it was just a money grab, I bet they probably just broke even after the requisite retooling of marketing, packaging, and splintering of the SKU for support coverage. Especially since there wasn’t a good reason for omission such a different form factor, necessitating trimming down the size or space on back panel.

I agree that all should support the same protocols, and see this as yet another reason why there should only be a single SKU.

Ethernet support is fit for this purpose on a device that doesn’t move, requires high bandwidth and low latency performance for video streaming a doubles as Home hub for reliability.

They could have just simplified everything by just including Ethernet and ensured protocol compliance/compatibility across the board and charged a median price between the splintered SKUs.

Little to no advantage to the consumer in doing so, other than giving them the -perception- they are making a choice to save money. You aren’t, Apple just built in the cost across a wider horizontal scale and making a case for further distinctions between SKUs, like my original comment about them choosing which port to charge more for next.
I mean, Apple definitely saves some money by not including Ethernet… probably a few dollars per unit when you factor in the port itself, assembly, and marginal supply chain costs. Multiply that by the number of units sold, and the total savings far outweighs the cost of all the unused Ethernet ports. And again, almost no one actually needs it. Wi-Fi handles the vast majority of streaming, Home hub duties, and casual use just fine.

Including Ethernet on every model would add cost for most users with zero practical benefit for most people. The cheaper SKU isn’t a money grab… it’s just a way to hit a lower price point for people who don’t need wired networking. For the small percentage who do, the higher-end model exists.

Keep in mind we’re on MacRumors… this is an enthusiast bubble. Most people here care about things that the average consumer, Apple’s actual target market, doesn't even think twice about.
 
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