Which 13 MBP...?

parajba

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Hi All,

I am looking to purchase a replacement for my 2010 MBP (which was later upgraded to 8GB and 512GB).

I am settled on the entry model MBP 13 nTB.

Two options:

1) Direct from Apple with employee discount (I can upgrade the RAM this way)
Base model + 16GB + 256GB: £1,500. Comes with 1 year Apple warranty as standard.

2)
From John Lewis (I can use a voucher of £125)
Base model + 8GB + 256 GB: £1,349. Comes with 3 year Apple/John Lewis warranty as standard.

If you include the voucher (I can use the voucher for other items later in the future) the two cost the same. The only difference is 3 year warranty OR 16GB. Which one should I go for?

I am planning to keep the laptop for as long as possible (like my 2010 MBP). Usage: internet, mail, social media, music, photography, MS Office, Citrix/work.

Thanks!
 

Ma2k5

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Based on your usage, option 2 makes the most sense.

There is a phobia of having less than 16GB ram among us - however I can confirm there are people doing full development, running VM's etc on 8GB laptops these days, so I wouldn't worry too much with your use.
 

Acronyc

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heres' my experience with the 2017 13 nTB

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/24805607/
This is an example of an unfortunate bad experience (which Apple really should have handled better), but there are lots of great experiences with the nTB MBP as well. Apple has sold millions of these new MBPs in varying models and I would imagine millions of people didn't have so many issues.

I'm one of those without any problems. I have a 2016 nTB MBP I've been using for almost one year now and have zero issues. No keyboard failures. Perfect screen. And a fan that is inaudible 95% of the time.

Give the nTB a try for a few weeks if this is the model that best suits your needs. If it doesn't work out, return it to Apple and get something else.
 
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parajba

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This is an example of an unfortunate bad experience (which Apple really should have handled better), but there are lots of great experiences with the nTB MBP as well. Apple has sold millions of these new MBPs in varying models and I would imagine millions of people didn't have so many issues.

I'm on of those without any problems. I have a 2016 nTB MBP I've been using for almost one year now and have zero issues. No keyboard failures. Perfect screen. And a fan that is inaudible 95% of the time.

Give the nTB a try for a few weeks if this is the model that best suits your needs. If it doesn't work out, return it to Apple and get something else.
Thanks, the 8GB/3 year warranty is also my preference. I launched all the programs on my current MBP and it was still showing 1.2GB of free RAM. Dashboard was choppy though. With normal use (internet, Mail, music and photography) it shows 5GB of free RAM.

In different news, I have an iPad Pro 9.7 128GB but can't really do anything with it (same things as my iPhone). For example I can't even connect my DSLR and import photos and create an archive etc. Very frustrated. This new MBP is really like the best of both worlds: the screen and speed of the iPad with a full computer and keyboard underneath.

Btw, can you also return these things to Apple/John Lewis in the U.K.? How does it work? I thought you could do that only if in unused conditions?
 

Geminist

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Having recently bought the nTB version with 16 GB RAM, I have no regrets over paying for the extra RAM.

You can get Apple Care within 12 months after purchase, and can save a bit of money each month and purchase Apple Care just before 12 months.

PS - Refurbed units are showing up with a 16 GB RAM configuration. I got mine as a refurbished. Other than the box, you cannot tell it's a refurbished unit. The battery is showing 2 cycles only. Between deciding to buy and waiting for this, it was about 2 weeks (I could be lucky).
 

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Thanks, the 8GB/3 year warranty is also my preference. I launched all the programs on my current MBP and it was still showing 1.2GB of free RAM. Dashboard was choppy though. With normal use (internet, Mail, music and photography) it shows 5GB of free RAM.

In different news, I have an iPad Pro 9.7 128GB but can't really do anything with it (same things as my iPhone). For example I can't even connect my DSLR and import photos and create an archive etc. Very frustrated. This new MBP is really like the best of both worlds: the screen and speed of the iPad with a full computer and keyboard underneath.

Btw, can you also return these things to Apple/John Lewis in the U.K.? How does it work? I thought you could do that only if in unused conditions?
Free RAM doesn't mean that much as the more RAM your PC has, the more it'll end up using - so having high RAM usage doesn't mean you need more RAM or that you will experience a slow down as a result. A better indicator is swap memory.

https://www.howtogeek.com/128130/htg-explains-why-its-good-that-your-computers-ram-is-full/
 

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This is an example of an unfortunate bad experience (which Apple really should have handled better), but there are lots of great experiences with the nTB MBP as well. Apple has sold millions of these new MBPs in varying models and I would imagine millions of people didn't have so many issues.

I'm on of those without any problems. I have a 2016 nTB MBP I've been using for almost one year now and have zero issues. No keyboard failures. Perfect screen. And a fan that is inaudible 95% of the time.

Give the nTB a try for a few weeks if this is the model that best suits your needs. If it doesn't work out, return it to Apple and get something else.
Got my MacBook Pro 2017 with touchbar recently and love it

No issues here
 
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parajba

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Am at the Apple Store right now, testing the base 13 with ALL apps installed open, 10-12 tabs including YouTube 1080 content...no sign of a swap file, free RAM still at 2GB.

I am ready to purchase the 8GB :)
 
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Am at the Apple Store right now, testing the base 13 with ALL apps installed open, 10-12 tabs including YouTube 1080 content...no sign of a swap file, free RAM still at 2GB.

I am ready to purchase the 8GB :)
John Lewis deal definitely sounds like the one to go for!
 

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Thanks, the 8GB/3 year warranty is also my preference. I launched all the programs on my current MBP and it was still showing 1.2GB of free RAM. Dashboard was choppy though. With normal use (internet, Mail, music and photography) it shows 5GB of free RAM.

In different news, I have an iPad Pro 9.7 128GB but can't really do anything with it (same things as my iPhone). For example I can't even connect my DSLR and import photos and create an archive etc. Very frustrated. This new MBP is really like the best of both worlds: the screen and speed of the iPad with a full computer and keyboard underneath.

Btw, can you also return these things to Apple/John Lewis in the U.K.? How does it work? I thought you could do that only if in unused conditions?
SD card reader for Ipad

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ipad-sd-card-reader/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i:aps,k:ipad sd card reader

WiFi SD card for camera

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/257-0312455-1394929?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=wifi+sd+card+&rh=i:aps,k:wifi+sd+card+
 

parajba

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Thanks again. Quick update. Missed the John Lewis promotion (by a day!), at least I don't need to worry about the decision anymore.

I am now contemplating whether to wait for the next round of updates and then pull the trigger (given that I am not in an rush).