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kidA said:
[don't] put references available upon request. you may as well not have references. if you don't have any, get some.

While that's good, it can also be bad (I've heard compelling arguments on both sides). First, you don't necessarily want the prospective employer talking to your references before they've (the employer) talked to you, so you might not want to include any references on the resume itself (they'll almost invariably ask for them on the official application when you go to interview). But if you're not listing your references, then (some have said) don't say "upon request" -- just don't mention references at all on the resume.

But again, if you've got good references then I've also heard good arguments for putting them on there. It's up to you and how strong you feel about your references.
 
References

Weighing in on the reference issue here.

Personally, an "available upon request" gets bumped down on my stack when I'm looking at resumes. Near as I figure, I don't have time to track down references that you should have sent me to begin with. Granted, it won't take you out of the running, but it does knock you down a peg from where you would otherwise be.

On my end, as a job seeker, I've found that the best way to go is to get 3 knock-out written references that you attach to your resume - if possible, 3 people who are different than your telephone references. Phone references are people you trust. Written references are people you don't necessarily trust, but who will write something good (or, if not too good, you just don't use it.)

Anywho - if your written references are good and you include the phone references, chances are, they won't even bother calling your phone references. After all, you must be a bang-up person if you have 6 people willing to vouch for you. :)

Just my take on life.
 
freiheit said:
I took to submitting in Word and a PDF (compatible to a lowest common denominator version ike Acrobat 4) indicating that I had attached both in case the Word document was not compatible with their version of Word. Not sure how successful this was, but I did go on more interviews the last time than I ever had before doing it.



Since when did Windows not handle PDF gracefully? I mean, it's not built-in like with MacOS X :) but Acrobat Reader is Acrobat Reader. Or did you mean Word for Windows making a PDF? I used a print-to-PDF program (ePDF for OS/2) that was based on GhostScript. It worked quite well -- very much like OSX's built-in print-to-PDF functionality.

As much as I hate to say it..as of Acrobat 7 the PC is BETTER at handling PDFs than the Mac. Adobe has really integrated the Acrobat PDFMaker mechanism in Windows, even better than the Mac, because you can use PDF 1.6 features. (Mac users still need the Adobe PDF printer to use any PDF version higher than 1.4, which is Acrobat 4 compatibility.) Apple's PDF engine is fine for screen display...but I wouldn't trust PDF creation for cross-platform distribution to anything but the Adobe PDF printer.
 
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