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Which browser is best?
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Originally posted by eyelikeart
exactly...then Netscape 5 came out...and I think it was because of java...but that took nearly a minute to load it felt like...terrible....that's when I decided never to use Netscape again...
it's not on a single computer that I use nor which I have installed the system on...
I wonder how their future is looking??
Umm, eye'? There was no netscape 5. It went from Communicator 4.76 straight to 6, with 4.77, .78, and .79 (bug fixes mostly) later. Do you mean 6?
Right...
Also, just for the record, Netscape wasn't the first browser. NCSA's Mosaic was. Some of the Mosaic folks broke off to make this huge (by that era's standards) browser, Netscape, which was nicknamed "Mozilla"--based on Mosaic, but much bigger. That is from whence the Mozilla project borrowed their name.
You can still see their (archived) web page here.
Chris
Also, just for the record, Netscape wasn't the first browser. NCSA's Mosaic was. Some of the Mosaic folks broke off to make this huge (by that era's standards) browser, Netscape, which was nicknamed "Mozilla"--based on Mosaic, but much bigger. That is from whence the Mozilla project borrowed their name.
You can still see their (archived) web page here.
Chris
oops! I forgot to put Opera down as an option but would any of you have voted that anyway? BTW, I can't add it anymore for some reason...MR won't let me edit my own poll!
The chimera team have made the toolbar finally have the functionality of mozilla, with Aqua interface. Now the Bookmarks can be draged and dropped and the sidebar works much better. Check it.
I've tried the chimera .2.7 and it's really great, fast, clear.(previous version seemed to be going on forever, without loading anything)
fastest so far I've tried (that also has a decent look)
pitty that it still is not fully customizeable, but I guess we'll see how it works out in future releases.
I will keep on trying chimera from time to time, to let go of the IE, you see
fastest so far I've tried (that also has a decent look)
pitty that it still is not fully customizeable, but I guess we'll see how it works out in future releases.
I will keep on trying chimera from time to time, to let go of the IE, you see
Opera
Opera 5 is a pretty good browser and I use it alot because it starts up fast and surfs the net faster than IE on my PM 7600. I think thersion 6 is out now and I might try that out soon. Opra isn't very full featured and its looks aren't great either but it does the job well enough and doesn't crash as much as IE. But there are those banner ads in the tool bar if you don't register it.
www.opera.com
Opera 5 is a pretty good browser and I use it alot because it starts up fast and surfs the net faster than IE on my PM 7600. I think thersion 6 is out now and I might try that out soon. Opra isn't very full featured and its looks aren't great either but it does the job well enough and doesn't crash as much as IE. But there are those banner ads in the tool bar if you don't register it.
www.opera.com
Chimera for me
After I found out about Chimera, I have played around with it for a while, and now with version 0.2.7, I use it 70% of my browsing time. I like it much more than IE, and it's much faster with my broadband connection. www.apple.com should not take several seconds to load with a 155 MBit line! But IE does exactly that. Blame Microsoft. Hail Chimera. Can't wait to see how the final 1.0 version will be like
After I found out about Chimera, I have played around with it for a while, and now with version 0.2.7, I use it 70% of my browsing time. I like it much more than IE, and it's much faster with my broadband connection. www.apple.com should not take several seconds to load with a 155 MBit line! But IE does exactly that. Blame Microsoft. Hail Chimera. Can't wait to see how the final 1.0 version will be like
Chimera 0.2.7
Man. This thing just keeps getting better. It seems to have regained some of the speed it had lost when it went to Quartz rendering. Also, it is getting better with Flash animations--still not as smooth as it ought to be, but getting better.
There will be a day when we only need one browser! Maybe I'll keep OW around too, just to encourage them.
Chimera is close.
Chris
Man. This thing just keeps getting better. It seems to have regained some of the speed it had lost when it went to Quartz rendering. Also, it is getting better with Flash animations--still not as smooth as it ought to be, but getting better.
There will be a day when we only need one browser! Maybe I'll keep OW around too, just to encourage them.
Chimera is close.
Chris
well i'm just happy that chimera .2.7 actually works on my computer. so that's good..
i'm using it somewhat extensively now for the first time, and i will say that i like it. if only for the non ms factor. however, it's got some time before becoming my only browswer for sure. it actually did quit on me, as well as not loading pages right... ie, i was at macrumors and i reloaded or something and the page just stayed white. i tried another page. same thing. til i quit and started the app up again..
all in all though. i like
ps. is there a way to open a new window from a link with a key? as with the command key and clicking a link in ie....? thanks
i'm using it somewhat extensively now for the first time, and i will say that i like it. if only for the non ms factor. however, it's got some time before becoming my only browswer for sure. it actually did quit on me, as well as not loading pages right... ie, i was at macrumors and i reloaded or something and the page just stayed white. i tried another page. same thing. til i quit and started the app up again..
all in all though. i like
ps. is there a way to open a new window from a link with a key? as with the command key and clicking a link in ie....? thanks
New window?
Once I got used to tabs, I could not go back to non-tab browsers. It's unfortunate OW doesn't do tabs or it would be my #2 browser.
If you end up not liking tabs...I don't know what to tell you. I don't believe theres' a shortcut to open a new browser window.
You won't miss it, though...
Chris
As a matter of fact, you can do even better. Command-clicking a link will open a new tab. Shift-Command-clicking will open a new tab behind the current one.
Once I got used to tabs, I could not go back to non-tab browsers. It's unfortunate OW doesn't do tabs or it would be my #2 browser.
If you end up not liking tabs...I don't know what to tell you. I don't believe theres' a shortcut to open a new browser window.
You won't miss it, though...
Chris
Re: New window?
ahh, i see now. what had me fooled was that i tried to command click a toolbar favorite and that doesn't seem to work.... and holding the click on them just gives greyed menus... so i guess that's for future improvements. the behind tab will be nice i think. nice addition.
sorry if this is dumb, but what's the difference b/w a tab and a browser window...?
when i do the command click thing, it opens what i'd call a new window. am i missing something?
ahh, i see now. what had me fooled was that i tried to command click a toolbar favorite and that doesn't seem to work.... and holding the click on them just gives greyed menus... so i guess that's for future improvements. the behind tab will be nice i think. nice addition.
sorry if this is dumb, but what's the difference b/w a tab and a browser window...?
when i do the command click thing, it opens what i'd call a new window. am i missing something?
hmmm, i see the tabs now, via the "new tab" file menu option.... but that doesn't happen when i command click.... wonder why that is.
either way, i like the windows for now. i'm just sooo used to command w for closing it, that i'd probably end up closing a lot of windows when trying to close tabs. but then again, i'm game for change.
so, why might it be doing new windows for me and new tabs for you....?
either way, i like the windows for now. i'm just sooo used to command w for closing it, that i'd probably end up closing a lot of windows when trying to close tabs. but then again, i'm game for change.
so, why might it be doing new windows for me and new tabs for you....?
Re: Re: New window?
You can also control-click links for more options. I usually use the tab-behind, though.
A new tab is within the same browser window, simply separated by a tab. It's a small thing at first glance, but ends up making a big difference. The primary difference is that it takes just one click on the old/new tab to switch the page you are looking at. Compare this to having to go to the "Window" pull-down and selecting the right window. Try it for a day and you will see how much time tabs save you.
Also, when a page reloads, you can see it in the tab.
Try it for a day (or even an hour) and you will notice a big difference.
Chris
You can also control-click links for more options. I usually use the tab-behind, though.
A new tab is within the same browser window, simply separated by a tab. It's a small thing at first glance, but ends up making a big difference. The primary difference is that it takes just one click on the old/new tab to switch the page you are looking at. Compare this to having to go to the "Window" pull-down and selecting the right window. Try it for a day and you will see how much time tabs save you.
Also, when a page reloads, you can see it in the tab.
Try it for a day (or even an hour) and you will notice a big difference.
Chris
Re: Re: Re: New window?
i use adium and they use the tab system, and i like it.... it isn't giving me the "new tab behind" option with control click. nor is it opening in new tab with command click but rather new window. same with shift command click... (ie new window behind). any idea why?
is there a way to toggle b/w tabs with the keyboard? similar to command ` in ie (and chimera now, as i test that hotkey)... but for tabs... not windows.
i use adium and they use the tab system, and i like it.... it isn't giving me the "new tab behind" option with control click. nor is it opening in new tab with command click but rather new window. same with shift command click... (ie new window behind). any idea why?
is there a way to toggle b/w tabs with the keyboard? similar to command ` in ie (and chimera now, as i test that hotkey)... but for tabs... not windows.
Strange
Sounds like you are doing everything right and Chimera is acting differently on your machine than on mine. No clue why.
I don't know of a hotkey combo to switch between tabs. Sorry.
Chris
Sounds like you are doing everything right and Chimera is acting differently on your machine than on mine. No clue why.
I don't know of a hotkey combo to switch between tabs. Sorry.
Chris
Re: Strange
ahh, well maybe in the next release or two....
after all, .2.6 wouldn't even run on my comp. so this is still a step up. the toggling would definitely be good for me. i like to have a few pages open and toggle between and read without needing the mouse....
perhaps in a future release (i'm saying that alot i think... ha)
ahh, well maybe in the next release or two....
after all, .2.6 wouldn't even run on my comp. so this is still a step up. the toggling would definitely be good for me. i like to have a few pages open and toggle between and read without needing the mouse....
perhaps in a future release (i'm saying that alot i think... ha)
in case anyone's curious...
you can toggle tabs using
shift-command-right arrow
and
shift-command-left arrow..
still haven't figured out why my command clicking a link opens a new window whereas some folks it opens just a tab.... oh well.
you can toggle tabs using
shift-command-right arrow
and
shift-command-left arrow..
still haven't figured out why my command clicking a link opens a new window whereas some folks it opens just a tab.... oh well.
just resurrecting a thread so that there's two of the same thing on the main page...this one without all the flaming though...
Mozilla
Until Chimera becomes as complete as Mozilla RC3 I will use Mozilla. I no longer use IE at all.
Mozilla is faster than IE (IMO) and has tabbed browsing.
Until Chimera becomes as complete as Mozilla RC3 I will use Mozilla. I no longer use IE at all.
Mozilla is faster than IE (IMO) and has tabbed browsing.