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Which camera (today's choice) works good with FCE?
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Clarification
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I did stumble onto this at a later time, and would ask that you afford some clarification.
Specifically are you referring to information given on the thread which has bearing on the starters final decision?...
...which was:
"...I like to inform you that we decided for the Canon Legria HF S 100 for our work and that this camera works flawless together with FCE 4 on an
iMac 2.96 GHz at 4 GB RAM. We added (no wonder) immediately a FW800
external storage..."
Or, are you pot shotting some of the peripheral info on the thread which has no bearing on the eventual equipment and software selected?
Threads have a way of getting off track, or at least convoluted regarding the point of the original question. If the 'off track info' was wrong means far less to me than if the 'on track info' is bad...does that make sense?
I am researching as suggested but would appreciate some up front sifting.
Thanks.
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I did stumble onto this at a later time, and would ask that you afford some clarification.
Specifically are you referring to information given on the thread which has bearing on the starters final decision?...
...which was:
"...I like to inform you that we decided for the Canon Legria HF S 100 for our work and that this camera works flawless together with FCE 4 on an
iMac 2.96 GHz at 4 GB RAM. We added (no wonder) immediately a FW800
external storage..."
Or, are you pot shotting some of the peripheral info on the thread which has no bearing on the eventual equipment and software selected?
Threads have a way of getting off track, or at least convoluted regarding the point of the original question. If the 'off track info' was wrong means far less to me than if the 'on track info' is bad...does that make sense?
I am researching as suggested but would appreciate some up front sifting.
Thanks.
If anything I said is in error, I'd like to know. Thanks!
BTW, TrainingMovie... congrats on your purchase and glad you're satisfied!
HF10 and Mac Pro Issues
My experience started out well with a Mac Pro and a Canon HF10. The picture and sound quality of the HF10 has consistently been good. After the Mac updates in June the Pro (iMovie 09) will hang usually after 2 minutes while pulling the clips off the camera. The ~ 2 minutes is occasionally usable and gets thumbed. Clips over 2 rarely get imported. I've taken the Mac to a private tech who reloaded the OS and even tried Snow Leopard, but could not get it to consistently import clips longer than 2 ~ 2.5 minutes. He tried it on 3 Mac Pro's all with the same problem. Works flawlessly on every iMac and Mac Book I've tried. Took it in to the Genius bar today and they tried the same thing, iMovie or FCP see the camera and start to pull clips but both hang if the clip is longer than 2.5 minutes. Worked flawlessly on a Mac Book there. They had no idea on how to resolve the issue since the clean install didn't work. So I think it worked under 10.5.4, fails under 10.5.7 and 8. The Pro is a 2 x 3ghz Dual Core Xeon with 10gb and 2 x 250gb drives. Canon support also was no help. So while I like the camera, I have to much invested in the rotten Apple and will have to try another camcorder.
My experience started out well with a Mac Pro and a Canon HF10. The picture and sound quality of the HF10 has consistently been good. After the Mac updates in June the Pro (iMovie 09) will hang usually after 2 minutes while pulling the clips off the camera. The ~ 2 minutes is occasionally usable and gets thumbed. Clips over 2 rarely get imported. I've taken the Mac to a private tech who reloaded the OS and even tried Snow Leopard, but could not get it to consistently import clips longer than 2 ~ 2.5 minutes. He tried it on 3 Mac Pro's all with the same problem. Works flawlessly on every iMac and Mac Book I've tried. Took it in to the Genius bar today and they tried the same thing, iMovie or FCP see the camera and start to pull clips but both hang if the clip is longer than 2.5 minutes. Worked flawlessly on a Mac Book there. They had no idea on how to resolve the issue since the clean install didn't work. So I think it worked under 10.5.4, fails under 10.5.7 and 8. The Pro is a 2 x 3ghz Dual Core Xeon with 10gb and 2 x 250gb drives. Canon support also was no help. So while I like the camera, I have to much invested in the rotten Apple and will have to try another camcorder.
How about the constant bashing of MiniDV for the "here it comes with bells on" hard disk and flash cameras?
Thats misinformation when someone touts something over another without any real world discussion or evidence.
I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying they gave bad advice, because the OP did get what they needed. But the tidbits here and there about tape being bad, is just plain wrong.
Thats misinformation when someone touts something over another without any real world discussion or evidence.
I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying they gave bad advice, because the OP did get what they needed. But the tidbits here and there about tape being bad, is just plain wrong.
Fair enough... Perhaps I was a bit harsh on tape, but the level of enthusiasm for MiniDV in the initial part of this thread was also a bit over-stated as well.
With the current crop of AVCHD camera's out there now supporting full 1920x1080@30/24p at 25Mbps, the only real advantage tape has now is price and the lack of instant access and faster than real-time transfers is a notable detractor.
Post #21 I think does a fairly good job of summarizing the diffferences even if it is a bit biased
It might be worth trying Final Cut Express... is it possibly an iMovie issue?
HF10 & Mac pro
No, it didn't matter what app. It fails on both. I did finally buy a Dynex card reader this morning and it actually works! Pulled in 35 minutes so far without any errors.
No, it didn't matter what app. It fails on both. I did finally buy a Dynex card reader this morning and it actually works! Pulled in 35 minutes so far without any errors.
IMac, FCE and Canon HFS 100
Dear all,
first let me say, I am not a native speaker, so "pot shotting" I didn't find in the dictionary. I assume from the last postings, that it might be referring to emphasising a technique over an other. This, of course, is not the point. Currenty in the workflow we drive we have a miniDV camera, a Panasonic GV550 and the Canon HFS 100. Because of the ease of work and the really good results, an other department bought a Canon HFS 10, which is the same camera with build-in memory. In a company, this makes life little easier, since then the SD card cannot get lost "somewhere".
What I want to state is that besides we use the miniDV in 3:4 and the Canons in HD-mode, having both source materials in the projects is not a problem at all. The quality is for what we do absolutely sufficient. What is perceived very useful or secure is the ability to just archive the tapes by putting them into the drawer. For the AVCHD-clips, well, they go on the server and into other means of archive. The AICs - we would love to have
them permanently on the drive(s), but they take such a large amount of space, after finishing the projects we need to remove them. Re-coding of AVCHD to AIC is a snap. Usually the camera(s) are hooked on the iMac, logging is started and one goes back to work and looks for the thing later.
Work with the iMac is elegant, as said, we use FCE, and we encountered until now no issues or problems. But please accept, we do not drive the system to any limits, editing and inserting some text is mainly what is done at all.
As stated, I do not fully understand, I assume due to my non-native-speakership, what was going on in this thread. I am just reporting what is working and proven.
It gets even more complicated now, since some Panasonic camera came up which produces mpeg-2 files with a ".mod" ending. We didn't get them directly into FCE, but with MPEG-Streamclip and the encoder from Apple we convert those clips to DV and put them into FCE.
You might say, this is a highly unprofessional mix of materials and methods and I believe you are right. But, this is where the materials come from. The ability to do those movies opened doors in the company, and more and more colleagues use a movie a transport for content, which is highly appreciated by the receptors.
I believe, knowledge builds up with some colleagues much faster then with me, since I get the first complaints not to have bought just the latest and greates Mac Pro. It was simply out of budget, but when asking there is great satisfaction with the iMac-solution we have here.
Hopefully I am not offending someone here with this mail.
Thanks a lot,
cheers,
kaechen
Dear all,
first let me say, I am not a native speaker, so "pot shotting" I didn't find in the dictionary. I assume from the last postings, that it might be referring to emphasising a technique over an other. This, of course, is not the point. Currenty in the workflow we drive we have a miniDV camera, a Panasonic GV550 and the Canon HFS 100. Because of the ease of work and the really good results, an other department bought a Canon HFS 10, which is the same camera with build-in memory. In a company, this makes life little easier, since then the SD card cannot get lost "somewhere".
What I want to state is that besides we use the miniDV in 3:4 and the Canons in HD-mode, having both source materials in the projects is not a problem at all. The quality is for what we do absolutely sufficient. What is perceived very useful or secure is the ability to just archive the tapes by putting them into the drawer. For the AVCHD-clips, well, they go on the server and into other means of archive. The AICs - we would love to have
them permanently on the drive(s), but they take such a large amount of space, after finishing the projects we need to remove them. Re-coding of AVCHD to AIC is a snap. Usually the camera(s) are hooked on the iMac, logging is started and one goes back to work and looks for the thing later.
Work with the iMac is elegant, as said, we use FCE, and we encountered until now no issues or problems. But please accept, we do not drive the system to any limits, editing and inserting some text is mainly what is done at all.
As stated, I do not fully understand, I assume due to my non-native-speakership, what was going on in this thread. I am just reporting what is working and proven.
It gets even more complicated now, since some Panasonic camera came up which produces mpeg-2 files with a ".mod" ending. We didn't get them directly into FCE, but with MPEG-Streamclip and the encoder from Apple we convert those clips to DV and put them into FCE.
You might say, this is a highly unprofessional mix of materials and methods and I believe you are right. But, this is where the materials come from. The ability to do those movies opened doors in the company, and more and more colleagues use a movie a transport for content, which is highly appreciated by the receptors.
I believe, knowledge builds up with some colleagues much faster then with me, since I get the first complaints not to have bought just the latest and greates Mac Pro. It was simply out of budget, but when asking there is great satisfaction with the iMac-solution we have here.
Hopefully I am not offending someone here with this mail.
Thanks a lot,
cheers,
kaechen