Other Which camera will se 2 have ?

lilith666

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We know that it will come with one lens , if this lens comes with the main camera from 11 series will it have dark mode ? Does dark mode requires another camera?
 

Burebista

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Night mode is a software feature enabled by A13, not some particular “lens”. The SE2 will have A13. So if Apple ships this phone without night mode, smart hdr and other computational photography features it means they’ll be deliberately disabling them. Why shoot yourself in the leg? I have no idea to be honest.

They’re planning to sell this phone till 2022 at least and with the competition out there (including $399 Pixel 3a and now 4a) and that kinda tired design they really can’t afford to release a lackluster camera at this point.

Fully geared iPhone 11’s main camera is my prediction.
 

CrazyForCashews

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They’re planning to sell this phone till 2022 at least and with the competition out there (including $399 Pixel 3a and now 4a) and that kinda tired design they really can’t afford to release a lackluster camera at this point.
Exactly, the iPhone 9 is supposed to be a "budget friendly" competitor to the budget friendly Android competition.

And that Android competition have really good cameras with night mode, so if Apple doesn't put a respectable camera with night mode on their next budget phone, it's gonna be a disappointment compared to the competition especially if it's going to be on the market without an update for 2-3 years.
 

Tsepz

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We know that it will come with one lens , if this lens comes with the main camera from 11 series will it have dark mode ? Does dark mode requires another camera?
Great question, not something many have focused on really.

I'm guessing it will be from the XR. With that, and the price point they're targeting, I doubt it will have night mode.
My thoughts exactly. They will give it a good camera but not the best.
 

JPack

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Night mode is a software feature enabled by A13, not some particular “lens”. The SE2 will have A13. So if Apple ships this phone without night mode, smart hdr and other computational photography features it means they’ll be deliberately disabling them. Why shoot yourself in the leg? I have no idea to be honest.

They’re planning to sell this phone till 2022 at least and with the competition out there (including $399 Pixel 3a and now 4a) and that kinda tired design they really can’t afford to release a lackluster camera at this point.

Fully geared iPhone 11’s main camera is my prediction.
Night mode requires a lens with 100% focus pixels, which was introduced on iPhone 11.

The telephoto and ultra wide lenses don't have 100% focus pixels and do not have night mode.
 

Relentless Power

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I'm guessing it will be from the XR. With that, and the price point they're targeting, I doubt it will have night mode.
I agree, and I think it would compete against one of the main reasons why Apple is marketing the Pro with night mode, and that’s a very specific requested feature that they finally delivered on, and by including that on a cheaper iPhone, that would only take away from the consumer to upgrade to the most expensive model to have that option.
 

Burebista

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Night mode requires a lens with 100% focus pixels, which was introduced on iPhone 11.

The telephoto and ultra wide lenses don't have 100% focus pixels and do not have night mode.
Fair point. Still my prediction stands that it will be equivalent to 11’s primary camera. Let’s see who will be right. That is if they release it at all, right now with the virus disruption nothing seems written in stone anymore.
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I agree, and I think it would compete against one of the main reasons why Apple is marketing the Pro with night mode, and that’s a very specific requested feature that they finally delivered on, and by including that on a cheaper iPhone, that would only take away from the consumer to upgrade to the most expensive model to have that option.
Differentiating factors:
- Design: “bezelless” vs “bezelfull”
- Screen size: 4.7’ vs 5’8 or 6.1’ or 6’5
- Authentication: Touch ID vs Face ID
- Cameras: 1 vs 2 or 3

You really think that’s not enough to differentiate between models? So they have to intentionally release an iPhone with a 2-year old camera system, even though Apple has never done this before (OG SE came with the flagship camera).

Even just the design itself will be a huge differentiating factor. Will be hard to entice people to buy a phone with the 2014 design unless you can at least market it as having a top quality (single) camera capable of producing that same images they’ve been showing off everywhere lately.

Also this SE2/9, if released, won’t be in the same lineup as 11/Pro for long. With iPhone 12 fast approaching- that’s what most buyers will be comparing it with in a few months. And then probably iPhone 13 too.
 
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D.T.

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You really think that’s not enough to differentiate between models? So they have to intentionally release an iPhone with a 2-year old camera system, even though Apple has never done this before (OG SE came with the flagship camera).
Yep. Plus 'Night Mode' is already present on the non-Pro 11 model, so it's not like that's a pro only feature (pretty much invalidating their assertion).
 
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thadoggfather

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I'm guessing it will be from the XR. With that, and the price point they're targeting, I doubt it will have night mode.
this will be disappointing if so. part of the consideration of the upgrade for me isn't just a13, but new optics from XR if I were to leap
 
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